ONGOING DIARY - starting May 2006
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GENERAL NOTE - Started with the explorer and got lots of
blobs. Six weeks later I switched to cheap Gracy curettes and
learned how to sharpen them with a sharpening stone. Then over the
next several months I started buying better quality curettes on
eBay. Then by the end of 2006 I decided to buy some expensive
curettes from American Eagle. Plus more eBay curettes and scalers.
For at least the next two years I was fairly enamored with Gracys.
Though they tend to skip and peel the calculus off in layers. Which
is very time consuming. Largely I was afraid of universals because
it is difficult to gain a sense of self awareness with them. Plus
they tend to dig in, so end up mano a mano against a determined
calculus adversary.
I had many calculus adversaries during this time. Including cleaning
out molar furcations, which was very strange and treacherous. Plus
one major high volume bleed out on upper left molar 16, where I
experienced "buckets and buckets" of blood for the first time. Plus
the imperative to go for debridement sessions of 8-10-12 hours as
necessary to take advantage of the calculus being made available by
the "gums opening up."
Largely I completed this initial debridement within the first year,
by early 2007, and the teeth miraculously recovered. Indeed I felt I
experienced a miracle. Largely I ignored the teeth for the next
three years except for regular cleanings. Plus had a few dicey
areas, notably the tooth 18-19 gap, which I thought I resolved. Plus
a few other areas.
Then... in October 2010, or roughly 3 1/2 years after the issues
were largely resolved the chickens came home to roost in the form of
periodontal abscesses. The first major abscess, on lower first molar
tooth #30, ended up lifting up the tooth, which apparently caused
"collision" between the first and second molar, which shortly
thereafter led to root resorption and the ultimate destruction and
extraction of the tooth. I tried to save the tooth with extensive
debridement to no avail.
Saw a periodontist and got a scaling and root planing in February
2011. But quickly became aware there was a lot of crud left over,
some fairly serious crud, in very critical places and that I was
headed for deep trouble quite quickly. Especially since the
periodontist recommended a series of extractions. Started upgrading
my curettes too. With Hu-Friedy Gracy Micro-Minis. PDT Montana Jack
& Mini-Me. O'Herir specialty scoops. Sugarman and Hirschfield
files. Custom Langer 1-2 extended access mini. L&M Furcator.
Plus
The second major abscess was in April 2011 between the first and
second upper molar tooth 2-3 gap, which was evidenced by a horrible
smell. At this point I had already purchased some Hu-Friedy
Micro-Minis and ended up releasing a bloody mess that scared the
pants off of me. I was ready to get one or more of the teeth pulled,
but decided to stick it out with a series of ongoing progressive
debridements. Including aspiration w 23 guage needles. Whereupon the
teeth miraculously recovered after extensive debridement and have
largely been benign ever since.
The third major abscess was in August 2012 with the tooth 29
bicuspid, which ended up surrounded by roughly five major abscesses.
But again I debrided this tooth and it recovered. It took roughly 40
hours. It still has apical periodontitis and looks like it has root
resorption. So I have ignored it at my peril. But it hasn't acted up
much since.
The fourth major abscess was in September 2012, which was really a
complex of abscesses on the upper right teeth running from tooth 2
molar all the way to tooth 7 incisor. This included apical
periodontitis on tooth 7. I debrided all these abscesses in a series
of progressive debridements lasting several months. The overall
approach reminded me of a military campaign. Much of it was a
horrifying bloody mess with large amounts of granulation tissue
getting released and fear of too much blood loss. Following up with
ongoing debridements, focusing on the bicuspid ever since. Roughly
20 debridements over the past two years. With more to go. Thought
the teeth would fail. But they didn't.
As of August 2014 still have at least one major debridement still
left to go on the bicuspid. Which I expect will be very bloody and
which will likely even open up the hole into the sinus. Which I am
confident I will recover from. Additionally there has been nerve
involvement with the infra-orbital nerve, which has been pretty
scary. But I researched nerves and am confident I can work around
the nerve and that it will successfully recover. Also included are
sinus issues, ie holes into the sinus. But again I am confident I
will resolve these issues successfully. Or the teeth will die in the
interim. Which will make the decision for me.
The fifth major abscess was in October 2012 on the molar-bicuspid
18-19 gap. Plus the 17-18 gap. Which I had been debriding on a very
slow track for years. Then finally realized I had to reach the
bottom and that thinking in two hour windows and debridement vs
trauma was a mistake. Leading to the idea of long debridement
sessions. Also expanding on the idea of the "gums opening up" after
several hours to offer fresh debridement opportunities and a genuine
shot at the calculus at the bone level, ie the holy grail. But also
to consider that the ongoing pain was real, lasting for a month or
more.
But in retrospect that there was no need to wait for the area to
heal for three or more months, but the sooner the better. Hence the
idea of Fast Track vs Slow Track. In addition here I pushed forward
with more of a pickaxe strategy, which I had previously avoided to
avoid bone issues. But think my ability to analyze bone vs calculus
has improved. So use logic to determine something is calculus and
cannot possibly be bone. But the logic is fairly obscure, going
through a series of "what if" questions and probabilities. But in
any case my understanding is almost always the same. "Everything has
to go." I am confident that I have not chopped away much if any bone
at all throughout all the debriding that I have done.
Starting in roughly December 2013 started revisiting this area and
turns out the entire area is more severe than originally wished.
Have been progressively debriding it. But have put it on the back
burner and only get to it perhaps once a month or so. Hoping more
serious problems don't rear up in the meantime.
The sixth major abscess complex got started in December 2012 on the
gap between the second molar and the wisdom tooth tooth 31-32.
Gradually this problem has evolved to where tooth 31 has been loose
for roughly the past year. Likewise it became apparent at some point
that the submandibular region of my neck got an escaped infection.
Hence this area is extremely dangerous and dicey. Successfully
drained the submandibular for the first time in October 2013. Have
been progressively working the problem ever since. Finally got the
3rd bleed at the end of July 2014 and the 4th bleed in early August.
So strangely I am confident I will be successful. Though may have to
give up the second molar tooth 31.
In addition, since the 31-32 submandibular abscess is so severe I am
trying to stay focused on a concerted irrigation program. Mostly
with the 3MIX-LSTR, which I "upgraded" to 4MIX. Presumably soon
leading into a special "jaw-juice" cocktail w mules. As the
"closer." Plus DuoDerm for autolytic (natural) debridement. Plus
Urea-Papain for more active chemical debridement. Object is to
maintain the area in "critical condition" while staging both Fast
Track and Slow Track debridement sessions to alleviate the
underlying submandibular and jaw infection problems. Then... if the
area does not go super-critical in the meantime then hopefully the
healing forces will gain way. Meanwhile if I have to bail out of the
situation then start with getting tooth 31 extracted and try to save
the wisdom tooth.
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LIST OF PROBLEMS - February 2013
SUMMARY - My longstanding and ongoing issue of multiple periodontal
abscesses started to become both obvious and imminent and critical
starting in July 2012. Since then I have debrided roughly 8 primary
abscesses plus multiple secondary abscesses with still more to go.
So far all the teeth appear to still be alive. Teeth appear to be
healing well too. With lots of secondary debridement. But the nerve
involvement issues are obviously both dangerous and treacherous.
Since the abscesses have definitely invaded the nerve proximities
and possibly even the nerve channels themselves.
1) Tooth #1-2 gap. Deep multiple periodontal abscesses, lingual and
buccal, with previous 02-11 smelly infection and multiple
oral-antral communications. Now mostly appears debrided, healed and
benign. Includes #1 furcation, definitely class 2, possibly class 3.
Plus #2 furcation, definitely class 3.
2) *** Tooth #3(4)5 gap. Deep multiple periodontal abscesses,
lingual and buccal. Dating back to roughly 2007. Mostly debrided in
09-12 & 10-12. Muscle below right nostril tends to twinge upon
any deep hygiene maneuvers. Suggesting tri-geminal nerve
involvement. Also includes definite multiple molar furcations class
3. Plus previous but now apparently benign oral-antral
communication(s).
3) ** Tooth #5-6 gap. Deep multiple periodontal abscesses, lingual
and buccal. With presumed furcation on bicuspid and a highly
questionable and dicey future.
4)* Tooth #7d. Long term involvement with tooth nerve. Dating back
to at least early 2011. Experienced as mild twinging or aching.
Source of problem appeared to be from distal abscess crossing past
back of eye tooth into what appears to be an open cavernous but
small pocket around the apex of the tooth.
5) Tooth #14-15-16. Area highly damaged but largely debrided by
03-11 and apparently viable and peaceful for now. Includes long term
apparently benign oral-antral communication.
6) ** Tooth #17-18 gap. Area is undebrided except for standard SRP
and maintenance. Presume there is a periodontal abscess there
affecting the buccal nerve. Feel warmth and occasional twinging in
buccinator muscle, matching sensations on opposite side, but not as
severe.
7) Tooth #18-19 gap. Periodontal abscess primary debridement 10-12.
No secondary debridement yet. Debridement incomplete.
8) ** Tooth #19(20)21 gap. Long term periodontal abscesses. Dating
back to roughly 2009. Revisited primary and secondary debridement in
10-12 & 11-12. Alveolar nerve involvement, with some numbness on
lower lip and tongue. With reasonable some apparent recovery, but
with some ongoing "acting up." Also looks like there might be some
devestating resorption.
9)** Tooth #28. Multiple periodontal abscesses all around. Dating
back to 2007. Mostly debrided 08-12 to 10-12. Includes
definite alveolar nerve involvement on distal side and likely on
buccal side too. Looks like tooth may be getting resorbed too. Plus
it is loose. Also the original abscess highly swelled up the
salivatory gland. Salivatory gland still appears slightly swollen
but otherwise feels benign. Think primary current issue is
incomplete debridement on buccal side and distal corner. Think this
might be the primary cause of the alveolar nerve issue.
10) *** Tooth #30-31 gap. Deep multiple abscesses. Debrided starting
12-12 to 02-13. Ongoing buccinator muscle pain. Buccal nerve
and buccinator and possibly even the neck (apparently) were highly
affected for at least a month or two prior to any actual
debridement. Any deep hygiene manouvers cause temporary buccinator
muscle pain. In addition to ongoing buccinator muscle pain. So
pocket is definitely right next to the nerve.
NOTES ON NERVE INVOLVEMENT: Most of the ongoing nerve involvement
and resulting numbness is on the lower right lip and the right
side of the tongue and in the right buccinator. Left side mimics the
same symptoms but at a lower level,occasionally almost
imperceptible, sometimes more.
The numbness comes and goes. Sometimes it seems like it has gone
away almost completely, like everything is close to normal again.
But talking and any general sense of emotion and stress make the
numbness become very obvious. Ibuprofin tends to relieve the
symptoms.
Any sort of hygiene, including using the irrigator, temporarily
makes the symptoms worse. But then after awhile it will calm down.
Regarding the alveolar there is some question whether the
involvement is mostly from tooth #29, likely from the buccal-distal
corner or whether there could be additional involvement from tooth
#31-32 lingual, either from the abscess gap or along the lingual
edge of one or both teeth.
Definite tri-geminal involvement. There is some additional nerve
involvement on the right upper lip and with twinges and warmth
leading both up towards the nostril and up to the right side of the
eye. Presume the primary source is the #3(4)5 buccal gap. But seems
reasonable there could be other sources too.
SPECIAL NOTE: Close-up debridement of the actual right buccal nerve
proximity at #31-32b only took place starting in early February
2013, less than a month ago. Meanwhile close-up debridement of the
tri-geminal nerve proximity at #3(4)5b only took place on February
22-23 2013. Less than a week ago. So both these areas are still in
immediate recovery from debridement trauma mode. And in some miracle
fanciful world perhaps even definitively directly addressed both
issues and they can both go on into more of a healing mode.
NOTE: Also using hyaluronic acid as "drilling mud" to wash affected
areas. On semi-ongoing but intermittent basis. Also have plans for
other types of so-called debridement solutions, like papain-urea and
wet hydro bandages to treat affected areas as chronic wounds. To
address areas that are already largely mechanically debrided.
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The DENTAL DIARY -- Saturday 5/6/06
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May 6, 2006... What do I want?
First I want to stop the disease on the one bad tooth.
Second I want a deep cleaning of all of my teeth. It looks
like a good general maintenance procedure. Last time I had a
deep cleaning done was in 2000.
Third I want a clear idea about the cleaning.
Idea -- dental hygienist school.
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SUMMARY OF CLEANINGS WITH EXPLORER DENTAL TOOL - STARTING JUNE 6,
2006 - W ADDENDUMS
2006 - CURETTAGE
1 --sa-05-06-06 -- Scrape tooth 14 -- hours upon hours.
Approximate at 3 hours. Recall at least six major clots for
tooth 14. Including serious filth in the front portion.
Also recall in retrospect that cleaning the back portion was
difficult. Requiring special angling. Possibly also
scraped front part of tooth 15.
2-- su-05-17-06 -- Scrape tooth 14 -- Approximate at 1-hour
-- Later.... Scrape overall teeth with explorer.
Approximate at 3 hours.
3 -- m-05-08-06 - Monday, May 8, 2006 -- Scrape overall teeth --
Approximate at 1 hour.
4 --tu-05-09-06 - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 -- Scrape overall teeth --
approximate at 1 hour.
SUMMARY -- 9 total hours so far. Of actual functioning
scraping. With... at least 4 hours allocatable as high-end.
-- tooth 14 equals 3 plus 1 equals 4 hours. NOTE -- Reality
might include 2 additional hours.
-- Overall other teeth equals 3 plus 1 plus 1 hour equals 5 hours.
5 -- m-05-15-06 - scrape upper teeth -- approximate at 1 hour.
6 -- su-05-21-06 - scrape left upper teeth -- approximate at 1
hour.
7 -- su-06-04-06 - scrape tooth 14 -- Break ledge.
With serious clots released. Approximate at 1 hour.
8 -- m-06-05-06 - scrape teeth 1 through 4 --
Approximate at 1 hour. -- DID I CAUSE DAMAGE TO TOOTH 3 GUM
TISSUE NOW?
9 -- f-06-09-06 - Friday, June 9, 2006 -- Midnight Madness -- scrape
all upper teeth -- including tooth 14. Including tooth
3. As thorough as possible. Big blobs. Approximate
at 4 hours.
-- DID I CAUSE DAMAGE TO TOOTH 3 GUM TISSUE NOW?
10 -- w-06-14-06 - tooth 14 only -- 3 hours! Several
major clots. Good progress!
11 -- f-06-16-06 - tooth 14 only -- failed attempt on a shelf
ledge. Estimate at 2 hours
12 -- sa-06-17-06 - bottom molars -- good progress and
general cleaning. Estimate at 2 hours. WAS THIS ONLY ACTIVITY
ON BOTTOM MOLARS?
SUMMARY - END OF EXPLORER ERA -- 24 total hours. Additional
total is... equals 15 additional hours -- plus 9 prior. Or 24
total hours. Versus a dental hygienist.
With Gracy Curettes -- new phase.
13 -- w-06-21-06 - Wednesday, June 21 -- tooth 14 only -- SRP with
Gracy curettes. With cut gum. Estimate at over 2
hours. Serious amounts of plaque and calculus removed.
PROCESS WAS PERFORMED IN A HIGHLY AGGRESSIVE MANNER. DID
I CUT BREAK OFF TOOTH AND CUT OPEN GUM NOW?
14 -- tu-06-27-06 - SRP tooth 1. With Gracy. Major
plaque and calculus removed. With deep pocket. Estimate
at 1 hour.
15 -- w-06-28-14 - SRP outsides of teeth 1-3. Reasonable
plaque and calculus removed. Estimate at 1 hour. WAS
THIS A PERFUCTORY JOB?
16 -- th-06-29-06 - SRP inside of teeth 1 and 2. Medium
filthy. Slow going. Estimate at 3 hours. DID I FORGET TO
DO INSIDE TOOTH 3?
17 -- su-07-02-06 - SRP inside of tooth 14. Seriously
filthy. Tooth is loose! With mother lode type blobs in
pocket. Estimate at 2 hours.
18 -- w-07-05-06 - SRP teeth 14-16. With primary focus
on outside of tooth 16. With sickle ledge breaking. With
deep pocket. With furcation. With mother lode type
blobs. Major Major type crud. Estimate at 5 hours. THIS
WAS THE GUM POCKET. DID I BREAK IN? DID I DAMAGE GUM OF
TOOTH 16 PREVIOUSLY?
19 -- th-07-06-06 - SRP t15. Area is sore. Attempt
at basic coverage. For objective of comprehensiveness.
Estimate at 1 hour.
20 -- m-07-10-06 - SRP t12. Tooth is loose! Along
with tooth 14. Tooth is completely filthy. With mother
lode type blobs. 10 blobs out of inside front pocket at
once. Total filth. Estimate at 4 hours.
21 -- sa-07-1506 - SRP t14. Attempt to reckon with divot
and ledge. Coming around from back to outside. Major
pocket in back. With major blobs. Estimate at 5 hours.
SUMMARY - 24 total Gracy hours. 2 plus 1 plus 1 plus 3
plus 2 plus 5 plus 1 plus 4 plus 5 equals 24 hours. Amazing.
-- w-08-03-06 - -- PERIO GUY -- One month post gum
pocket.
-- m-08-07-06 - -- Get x-rays
-- w-08-16-06 - -- Get SRP
22 -- m-08-28-06 - Floss. Check out. Light general
SRP tooth 14. Plus additional SRP. With some calculus.
Estimate at 3 hours.
23 -- tu-08-29-06 - SRP tooth 15. Apparently
filthy. With breakaway edge. Screw up. General SRP
teeth 13 -16 Estimate at 2 hours.
24 -- f-09-01-06 - Friday, September 1, 2006 -- SRP teeth 13 through
16. General all around. With comprehensiveness.
Reasonable calculus.
Discover tooth 2 gum detached from bone. Requiring surgical
intervention? With pocket. With likelihood of TT cutting
through gum. But... could TT have caused the creation of a
pocket? Debride pocket. Plan how to clean out
pocket. Estimate at 3 hours.
SUMMARY - 8 additional Gracy hours. Total Gracy hours
equals 24 plus 8 = 32. Total shepherds hook hours at
24. Total is 56 hours total debridement of tooth
surfaces. Mostly on four teeth. With amazing surprises
that calculus is still there! With realization that some of it
is latent calculus that is only now attracting a following of
plaque.
25 -- f-09-01-06 - SRP t16. Revisit previous
ABSCESS. Second time. Idea to clean out pocket.
With reasonable results. Debrided as best I could.
Working curette around pocket. But... did not finish off what
I had in mind. Additionally... with suspicion, gradual
discovery and conclusion that my prior curetting of pocket on tooth
16 was the same thing. Summary -- Reduced bacteria load.
They at 3 plus 2 equals 6 hours
26 -- tu-09-05-06 - SRP teeth 14 through 16. Irrigate
pocket abscess tooth 16. Mixed results. Final scrape,
brush and irrigate. Stop. Treat as surgical site.
1 hour. Teeth 29 through 32. Lower right molars.
Mostly tooth 29. Clean inside surfaces. 2 hours.
27 -- w-09-06-06 - apply melaleuca to damaged gum areas.
SRP teeth 29 through 32. Lower right molars. Mostly
29. Trash gum. Flops open. With destruction of gum
tissue. Treat as surgical site. Entire area quite
filthy. Certainly suffering from periodontal disease.
But still have in between the teeth to do. 2 hours
28 -- sa-09-09-06 - SRP teeth 1 through 3. Tooth 2
filthy. Open gum abscess filthy. Estimate at 2 hours.
29 -- th-09-21-06 - non-SRP -- brush pick lower right
damaged gum tooth 29 molar. Trashed gum. Clean out
blobs. Estimate at 3 hours.
30 --f-09-22-06 - non-SRP -- brush pick 14/15
pockets. Amazingly filthy. 50 pieces. Estimate at
3 hours.
-- w-09-27-06 - PERIO GUY -- interdental 14/15 traumatized.
SUMMARY - 12 additional Gracy hours. Credit 6 brush pick
hours. Equals 18 additional hours. Plus 32 equals 50
hours between June 20 and September 20.
31 -- tu-10-10-06 - SRP teeth 1 through 3. Teeth 13 through
16. Light SRP. 3/4 hour.
32 -- w-10-11-06 - SRP -t14-ml - SRP filthy bacterial colony
pocket. 1 1/2 hours.
33 -- m-10-16-06 - SRP - t2 abscess. Filthy. 4
hours.
34 -- tu-10-24-06 - SRP - t14-15. Gruesome
looking. Stop. Stay away. 4 hours.
35 -- sa-10-28-06 - SRP- t2. Gum abscess/gum
boil. 4 hours.
36 -- m-10-30-06 - t2. Clean gum boil.
Irrigate. Finalize. 2 hours. With the Gracy.
Later... gum 3/4 with tooth pick.
37 -- th-11-02-06 - SRP - t2-3. Filthy. 2
hours.
38 -- th-11-16-06 - SRP - t3. Furcation. SRP
t2. SRP teeth 14 and 15. Plus 15 and 16. 3 hours.
39 -- f-11-17-06 - SRP - t3-4. Presumably exposing
furcations? Filthy. 2 hours.
SUMMARY - 24 additional gracy hours. Roughly 6 weeks.
Plus 50 equals 75 total Gracy hours.
40 -- tu-11-27-06 - Dr. K -- SRP. Later... SRP t3
furcation. 1 hour.
41 -- w-11-27-06 - SRP midnight madness. Burnished
calculus. 6 hours.
42 -- th-11-30-06 - SRP. Start surgical rest. 3 hours.
18 DAYS TOTAL REST
43 -- m-12-18-06 - SRP molars. 3 hours.
44 -- th-12-29-06 - SRP molars. Minis. 2 hours.
45 -- sa-12-30-06 - SRP molars. Minis. 3 hours?
SUMMARY - 18 additional gracy hours. Total 93 gracy hours for 2006
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2007 - CURETTAGE
01-- sa-01-06-07 - SRP - molars. Minis. 2 hours?
02-- w-01-10-07 - SRP - furcation t3. Four major
blobs. 1 hour.
03-- th-01-11-07 - SRP -furcation t2. Reasonable
blobs. 1 hour.
04-- sa-01-21-07 - SRP - tenacious calculus.
t2/3/4. 3 hours.
05- th-01-25-07 - SRP - furcations - t2,3,14 - bio-mass reduction -
2h
06-- f-01-26-07 - SRP all. Including apex. Midnight
madness. 5 hours.
07-- m-01-27-07 - SRP. - Distals and mesials.
Significant calculus and blobs. 3 hours.
08- m-1/29/07 -- SRP - Generalized -- post generalized SRP sweep of
overall affected areas. Functioning as generalized end of
hostilities and beginning of postwar phase. 3 hours
09-- w-01-31-07 - - SRP - mesial t14. SRP mesial 2
furcation. Filthy. Fistula. 5 hours.
10-- su-02-04-07 - SRP - mesial t16. Filthy/filthy/filthy. Sam
Peckinpah. Hundreds of blobs. Buckets of blood. 6 hours.
11-- m-02-05-07 - SRP - t15/16 interdental. Sam Peckinpah.
Buckets of blood. Plus general perio. 3 hours.
SUMMARY - 34 additional Gracy hours.
12- th-02-15-07 - SRP - Furcations 2 and 3 -- follow up on
prior major debridement - fairly filthy. 3 hours
13- tu-02-20-07 - SRP - distal t4 plus buccal and lingual. Light. 1h
14- f-02-23-07 - SRP - t16m - light - 1h
15- f-03-02-07 - SRP - MLt16 - 2h - follow up on prior bloodbath. 1h
16- 03-06-07 - SRP - t2/3 gap w fistula - 1 h
17- tu-03-20-07 - SRP - D3 & ML2 - Funky. Intractable BOP.
Possible apex. Apparent oral antral fistula. 1h
18- f-03-23-07 - SRP - D3 - 1h
19- f-04-20-07 - SRP - D3 mostly - BOP - 3h
20- m-07-16-07 - SRP - general - 2h
21- m-07-23-07 - SRP - t1-2 & 3-4 & 13-14 & 15-16 -
furcations - 2h
22- sa-09-15-07 - SRP - 16M - 14M - 2& 3 furcations - 2h
23- th-11-08-07 - SRP - D14 - furcation - 1h
24- m-12-03-07 - SRP t14-15 - lots of blobs - 4h
SUMMARY -- tooth cleaning by hygienist on th-4/12/07 &
tu-06-26-07 & 11-27-07 represents the starting of a new
phase. Should try to preserve cleanliness. In addition
should try to start to implement regenerative possibilities.
Such as irrigation with calcium triphosphate.
NOTE - By April-May 2007 the teeth largely appear to have resolved
themselves. 14/15 gap looks largely healed. 3/5 gap seems reasonably
benign. 18/19 gap seems healed. General sweep gets little to no
blood.
SUMMARY - 23 additional gracy hours. Plus 34 prior hours = 57 hours
for 2007 & 93 hours for 2006 = 150 total hours post explorer
phase.
END OF PHASE 1 - GET TEETH BASICALLY CLEAN
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2008 - CURETTAGE - START OF PHASE 2
1 - f-02-15-08 - SRP - furcations - general sweep - 1h
2 - su-04-13-08 - SRP - t2-3 gap & 31 - both filthy - 4h
3 - tu-04-23-08 - SRP - t2-3 - 1h
4 - th-05-29-08 - SRP - t30-31-32 - general cleanup - 2h
3 - m-06-09-08 - SRP - t30-31-32 - buckets & buckets - 4h
4 - tu-06-10-08 - SRP - t14-15 - 1h
5 - sa-06-14-08 - SRP - D3 - 1h
6 - sa-06-28-08 - SRP - t19-m - 30 blobs - hundreds of flecks
- 3h
7 - w-07-09-08 - SRP - t32-d - 1h
8 - su-07-13-08 - SRP - t32 - 2nd debridement - 3h
9 - w-07-23-08 - t19-20 gap - irrigate w iodine - hundred of
flecks - 2h
10 - f-08-01-07 - t19-20 gap - irrigate w iodone - get fairly clean
- 2h
11 - f-10/24/08 -- SRP capped molar -- t19 -- iodine -- hundreds of
flecks -
SUMMARY 2008 - - 27 hours of curettage & deep irrigation
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2009 - CURETTAGE - CONTINUATION OF PHASE 2
1 - m-01-19-09 - SRP - t30-31-32 - filthy - 2h
2 - sa-01-24-09 - SRP - t-30-31-32 & t2-3 - 2h
3 - th-02-12-09 -- SRP - t30-31 - buckets and buckets -- 4h
4 - th-03-05-09 -- SRP - t30-31 - filthy and deep -- 2h
5 - tu-03-17-09 - SRP - t19-20 - clear gap - 1h
6 - w-03-25-09 - SRP - t30-31 - deep pit - apex? - 1h
7 - sa-04-04-09 - SRP - t30-31 - buckets of blood - nasty - 2h
8 - su-04/26/09 -- SRP - t30-31 - light filthy -- 2h
9- tu-06-15-09 - SRP - t21 - incisor - filthy - 1h
10 - su-07-19-09 - SRP - t16m - lots of blood and flecks - 2h
11 - m-08-10/09 -- SRP - t30/31 - various blobs -- 2h
12 - th-10-29-09 - SRP - upper distals - 1h
13 - th-12/3/09 -- SRP - 30/31 - mesial -- 1h
SUMMARY 2009 - 23 hours of curettage
END OF PHASE TWO - INTERIM
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2010 - CURETTAGE - START OF PHASE 3 - PERIODONTAL ABSCESS ATTACK
TOOTH #30
NOTE ON TOOTH 30 ABSCESS & EXTRACTION: One major symptom on the
t30 molar abscess was the tooth started to rise up. Apparently this
is caused by pressure from the infection under the tooth. Checking
out the X-ray of this tooth it looks like the furcation of the tooth
has an edge of calculus around it. So likely the calculus and
infection got into the furcation and the pressure from below is what
caused the tooth to rise up. In retrospect if I was able to have
perfect knowledge about this tooth in advance, plus perfect skill,
and was aggressive enough there is a slight possibility I could have
saved the tooth. But once the tooth "rose up" it got root
resorption, ie spontaneous self-destruction, caused by a "collision"
with the surrounding bone, which ended up killing the tooth. Which
again, with perfect knowledge and skill I could have combatted.
However, I did not have perfect knowledge or skill and the situation
was already so severe by the time it became apparent that unless I
could have stopped the tooth from erupting and prevented its
collision with the bone then the tooth was pretty much doomed once
it erupted and started to become painful.
10/28/10 -- see dentist -- t30 - discussed late evening soreness -
dentist said "Let's see what happens"
1 - sa-11-13-10 - SRP - t30-31 - pain increasing - general
exploration - plus other areas - 2h
2 - f-11-19-10 - SRP t30-31 - pain getting severe - constant,
critical, demanding - 1h
11/23/10 - see dentist - t30-31 - emergency - extremely painful -
get antibiotics and pain killer (?) - plan to extract one or both
teeth!!
11/24/10 - t30 - bloody blobs spontaneously release themselves -
pain stops - cold test teeth - t31 is highly viable, almost normal -
t30 definitely viable, but w apparent pulpitis (?)
3 - th-11-25-10 - SRP - t30-31 - painful curettage - release lots of
blobs. - 2h
4 - sa-11-27-10 - SRP - t5-7 anteriors & t20-27 anteriors -
general cleaning - 4h
5 - su - 11-28-10 - SRP - t30-31 - additional curettage - 1h
6 - tu-11-30-10 - SRP - t30-31 - additional curettage - highly
subterranean - 1h
7 - tu-12-14-10 - SRP - t30-31 - curettage - 10+ major blobs - 2h
8 - th-12-16-10 - SRP - t2-3 gap - 1h
9 - f-12-17-10 - SRP - upper incisors - 1h
sa-12-18-10 - note - t#30 feels "squishy" and numb. Responds poorly
to scratching. Delayed response to cold.
10 - sa-12-18-10 - SRP - lower incisors - 1h
11 - su-12-19-10 - SRP - t28 - 1h
12 - w-12-22-10 - SRP - t30-31 - major release of debris - stinky!!
- irrigation into "stink central" temporarily helps flush out
stink - 2h
13 - f-12-24-10 - SRP - t6-7 & t27-28 & t30-31 - stinky! -
2h
14 - tu-12-28-10 - SRP - t6-7 & t30-31 - stinky!! - 2h
NOTE - TOOTH 30 ABSCESS - There appear to be two holes on the distal
portion of tooth 30. One hole is located entryway roughly the
spot of the distal lingual corner of original release. Second
spot is located roughly midway distal. Meanwhile approach from
lingual portion becomes progressively more difficult. Approach
appears blocked. Or hole seems to close. Meanwhile
original approach from buccal portion starts very open and
subterranean. Reaching most of the way to the lingual
side. Becoming the major entryway. But over time this
entryway also becomes more and more blocked. Until it becomes
difficult to insert the irrigation needle into so-called stink
central.
SUMMARY - 23+ hours of curettage - mostly on t30 abscessed
tooth - obviously super-critical and in danger of imminent death
= = =
2011 - CURETTAGE - CONTINUATION OF #30 ABSCESS ATTACK - PHASE 3
1 - w-01-05-11 -- SRP -30/31 - t31 mesial -- successfully remove
most of major ledge -- lots of bloody debris -- 3 h
2 - th-01-06-11 - SRP - t6 - t3 - assorted - 1h
3 - sa-01-08-11 - SRP - 30/31 - stink returns with vengeance -- SRP
t30 distal -- significant debris -- medium bloody -- 2 h
4 - su-01-09-11 - SRP - t2-3 - t5-6 - t16-17 - assorted - 1h
5 - w-01-12-11 - SRP - 30/31 - fine SRP along the bottom edge
with Micro-Mini and McCall -- significant bloody debris - 1h
6 - f-01-14-11- see periodontist - arrange for SRP
7 - sa-01-15-11- SRP - t2-3-5 - general - smelly too? - 4h
8 - su-01-16-11 - SRP - t1-2 gap - lots of crud - 5h
9 - tu-01-18-11 - t30-31 - Aspirate & irrigate w iodine - 1h
credit
10 - th-01-20-11 - periodontist - SRP - lower right quad - 1h - $300
11 - f-01-21-11 - SRP - t1-5- lots of crud - smelly! - 4h
12 - sa-01-22-11 - t2-6 - aspirate - 2h credit
NOTE - ongoing daily irrigation and aspiration of abscess to relieve
stink
13 - f-01-28-11 - SRP - t2-3 - t30-31 - 2h
14 - tu-02-01-11 - periodontist - SRP - upper right quad - 1-8 -
$300
15 - th-02-03-11 - SRP - t17-20 - light - 2h
16 - tu-02-08-11 - periodontist - SRP - lower left quad - 1h - $300
17 - sa-02-12-11 - SRP - t2-3 gap - 1h
18 - su-02-12-11 - t3 & t16 - aspirate - 1h credit
19 - m-02-14-11 - aspirate all around - recover actual
yellowish pus - 3h actual => 1h credit
20 - w-02-16-11 - SRP t2-3 gap - still filthy post periodontist -
1h?
21 - th-02-17-11 - periodontist - SRP - upper left - 1h
22 - f-02-18-11 - SRP - 3-5 gap - 20-30 blobs - fistula - 2h
23 - sa-02-19-11 - SRP - t3-5 gap & t30-30 abscess - 2h
24 - su-02-20-11 - SRP - t30-31 gap - significant blobs - 2h
25 - tu-02-22-11 - SRP - t30-31 gap - micro-mini - combat smell - 3h
26 - sa-02-26-11 - SRP - t30-31 & t2-3 - 2h
27 - su-02-27-11 - SRP - t2-3 - furcator - 2h
28 - tu-03-01-11 - SRP - t5-dl - bloody & filthy - smelly - 2h
29 - f-03-04-11 - t4-dl - aspirate & irrigate & brush
pick - 1h credit
30 - tu-03-08-11 - t6-d - aspirate & irrigate - 1h credit
31 - w-03-09-11 - aspirate molars - 3h => 1h credit
32 - f-03-11-11 - SRP - t2-ml - irrigate & assorted - smelly
& bloody - 1h credit
33 - m-03-14-11 - aspirate-irrigate - w SRP - t6-7 & t3 - 1h
credit
34 - th-03-17-11 - see periodontist - #30 has root resporption -
most likely will die a painful death
35 - f-03-18-11 - t6 - aspirate-irrigate - blobs - 1h credit
36 - tu-03-22-11 - general clean w brushpick, toothpick, needle etc
= 1h credit
37 - w-03-23-11 - t6 - mostly aspirate - 1h credit
38 - th-03-24-11 - SRP - 2-3 gap - filthy! - stinky! - 1h
39 - f-03-25-11 - SRP - t2-3 - stinky! - bust hole into sinus -
YIKES - 2h
NOTE - Carefully brushed out hole into sinus - antral-oral
communication - with hyaluronic acid. Combined with additional
aspiration and irrigation. Hole largely closed up within a day or so
and largely healed without incident within a week or so. With
ongoing debridement throughout the area for the next several months.
Though basic hole is probably still there. Continued to carefully
clean out area and it has not opened up since. Have had total of
roughly 5 clear-cut oral-antral communications, all blowing air, and
have gotten all of them to close up without incident. Per "bulls-eye
theory" - idea being to get the outside of the hole to heal first,
then work inward.
40 - su-03-27-11 - t6-7 & t30-31 - aspirate - 1h credit
41 - th-03-31-11 - t6-7 & t30-31 - aspirate - 1h credit
42 - f-04-01-11 - SRP & aspirate - t6-7 & t30-31 &
assorted - 3h
43 - f-04-08-11 - see endodontist - t30 extremely painful - tooth is
doomed - resorption
44 - f-04-08-11 - t30 - aspirate doomed tooth to relieve pressure
and pain - successful - 1h credit
45 - m-04-11-11 - TOOTH #30 EXTRACTED - ROOT RESORPTION
SUMMARY
2011 - periodontist SRP 4 hours - 1 hour per quad
2011 - SRP - 49 hours
2011 - NEEDLES & TOOTHPICK - 14 hours equivalent credit (actual
hours at least 2x higher)
END OF PHASE 3 - TOOTH #30 EXTRACTED
= = =
2011 - START OF PHASE 4 - SECOND INTERIM PHASE - POST SRP
NOTE ON ASPIRATION vs IRRIGATION - Throughout this period I largely
used aspiration to clean out the deeper areas. I also used
irrigation too. The reason I used aspiration largely was two-fold.
First was by drawing on the plunger rather than push in the plunger
I felt it was safer for the deeper tissues. Additionally I was
concerned about accidentally "injecting" fluid into the deeper
regions, especially any hyaluronic acid, which is hydrophillic and
can expand with water. In addition I got pretty good results.
HOWEVER... I have changed my opinion since then and generally feel
that the time is better spend on curettage. The reason is I would
get all exited about small amounts of crud liberated through
aspiration and then would go back and get much larger amounts
through curettage. ADDITIONALLY... I am now more favorably disposed
towards irrigation, as long as the skill level is high enough to
avoid jamming the needle into deep spaces.
1 - w-04-13-11 - t4-6 - assorted aspiration - zero hours credit
2 - sa-04-16-11 - SRP - general cleaning - 1h?
3 - su-04-17-11 - t3-m - assorted aspiration - 1 hour credit
4 - m-04-18-11 - t5-6 - assorted aspiration - 1 hour credit
5 - tu-04-19-11 - SRP - t5ml - bloody - gracy & irrigation - 2h
6 - tu-04-26-11 - t5-8 - aspirate - cruddy cache of debris - 1h
credit
7 - m-05-02-11 - t5-7 - aspirate - lots of flecks - 2h+ => 1hr
credit
8 - tu-05-03-11 - t2 - aspirate - infected - 1h credit
9 - th-05-05-11 - t2-6 - aspirate - infected - some blood - 5h =>
2h credit
10 - sa-05-07-11 - t2-5 - aspirate - filthy - xenomorph - 1h credit
11 - m-05-09-11 - t6-7 - aspirate - some blood - - 1h credit
12 - w-05-18-11 - t2-3 gap - aspirate - light blood - zero hours
credit
13 - th-05-19-11 - t2-7 - aspirate - serious blood & xenomorphs
- 3h => 2h credit
14 - f-05-20-11 - t3-4 - aspirate - serious blood & xenomorphs -
3h => 2h credit
15 - su-05-22-11 - t2-3 gap - aspirate - serious blood & crud -
- 3h => 2h credit
16 - m-05-23-11 - t5-b - aspirate - deep & bloody - 1h credit
17 - f-05-27-11 - t5-d - aspirate - deep & bloody - 1h credit
18 - m-05-30-11 - t3-7 - aspirate - fairly clean - 3h => 2h
credit
19 - tu-05-31-11 - general - aspirate - 1h credit
20 - f-06-03-11 - palate-lingual t3-5 - puncture & aspirate "gum
boil" - zero hours credit
21 - tu-06-07-11 - palate-lingual t3-5 - puncture & aspirate
"gum boil" - zero hours credit
22 - w-06-08-11 - t3-5 aspirate "tunnel" leading to "gum boil" -
filthy! - 1h credit
23 - f-06-10-11 - t6-7 - aspirate "tingly feeling" ie apical
periodontitis - 1h credit
24 - su-06-19-11 - SRP - t19-m - gap not resolved - lots of deep
infection - 1h
25 - w-06-22-11 - SRP - t19-20 - filthy - dig & dig - 3h
26 - tu-07-05-11 - SRP - t19-20 - filthy - dig & dig - 5h
27 - th-07-28-11 - t6-7 - aspirate "tingly feeling" ie apical
periodontitis - 1h credit
28 - f-07-29-11 - SRP - t15-m & 19-m - filthy - 100s of pieces -
Midnight Madness - 8h
29 - f-08-19-11 - SRP - t15-b - filthy - 2h
30 - th-08-25-11 - SRP - t8-15 w flecks - t6-7 aspiration - 3h
31 - su-07-28-11 - SRP - t2-3 & t11-12 & 12-14 - 2h?
32 - m-09-05-11 - SRP - t28-30 gap - 10 blobs - t12-15 gap - horror
show - 100s of blobs - 6h
33 - m-09-12-11 - SRP - general - plus toothpick - plus irrigation -
3h
34 - th-09-22-11 - SRP - t2-d - bloody - 1h
35 - f-09-23-11 - SRP - t2-d - bloody - 1h
36 - sa-10-01-11 - SRP - t30-31 gap - filthy - 2h
37 - th-10-13-11 - SRP - t-6-9 w t7-8 gap bloody - t30-31 gap bloody
- 2h
38 - sa-11-05-11 - SRP - t6-10 - dirty - 1h?
39 - m-11-14-11 - SRP - t7-8 - dirty - 1h?
40 - m-11-21-11 - SRP - t12-14 gap - 4 big blobs - 1h?
41 - f-11-25-11 - SRP - t7-8 - t15-mb - t16ml - 3h?
42 - sa-11-26-11 - SRP - t19-mb - buckets & buckets - 3h
43 - su-11-27-11 - SRP - t4-12 - linguals - semi-dirty - 2h
44 - su-12-18-11 - SRP - t9-10 - dislodge gigantic ledge - 1h
45 - tu-12-27-11 - SRP - t6-7 blob & t30-31 deep blobs - 1h
SUMMARY - SRP - 50 hours
NEEDLE - 23 hours credit
END OF 2011
= = =
START OF 2012
1 - tu-01-03-12 - SRP - t6-7 furcator blob - 1h?
2 - sa-01-28-12 - SRP - t10 - filthy - 1h?
3 - f-02-03-12 - SRP - t6-7 - furcator & mccall - 2h
4 - tu-02-07-12 - SRP - t19-d - 5+ blobs - 1h?
5 - f-02-10-12 - SRP - 15-d - plus all around - 2h
6 - m-02-13-12 - SRP - t9-11 - sickle - dirty - 3h
7 - tu-02-14-12 - SRP - t7 - dirty - 1h
8 - w-02-15-12 - SRP - t3 - sickle - aspirate - 1h
9 - tu-02-21-12 - SRP - t3 blob & t10 dozens - 2h
10 - th-03-23-12 - SRP - anteriors - 10 blobs or so - 1h?
11 - f-02-24-12 - SRP - t19-d - lots & lots - trauma - 5h+
12 - f-03-02-12 - SRP - t19-20 gap - 6 blobs - 1h?
13 - su-03-25-12 - SRP - t6-10 - light - 1h
14 - m-04-30-12 - SRP - t19-20 - major - 100s blobs - plus general -
6h+
15 - w-05-09-12 - SRP - t15-m - 20pp - 1h
16 - w-05-16-12 - SRP - t26 w micro-mini - filthy - 1h
17 - tu-06-05-12 - aspirate all around - zero hours credit
18 - f-06-15-12 - aspirate all around - plus HA - zero hours credit
19 - f-06-22-12 - SRP - t15 - filthy - plus HA - 1h?
SRP - 30 hours
= = =
END OF INTERIM SECOND INTERIM - PHASE #5
START OF SECOND ABSCESS ATTACK - PHASE #6
= = =
1 - sa-07-14-12 - SRP - t7 - filthy - 2h
2 - w-07-18-12 - SRP - t7d - 1h
3 - th-07-19-12 - SRP - t7-d - xenomorph triumph - 1h
4 - m-08-06-12 - SRP - t28 - buccal-mesial - mini-me - brute force
bloodbath w granulation tissue & abscess release - 3h
5 - tu-08-07-12 - SRP - t28 - buccal-mesial - brute force -
bloodbath - release abscess - 1h
6 - sa- 08-11-12 - deep needle aspiration- irrigation w HA - 1h
credit
NOTE - Either the hyaluronic acid or the ongoing infection caused
the salivary gland to seriously swell. Then used a massage &
irrigation program to liberate crud out of the salivary gland and
return gland to more normal size. Largely gland seems normalized,
but continuing massage program on intermittent basis.
NOTE - In addition I ended up with a submandibular infection, which
is the space including under the tongue and neck. The hole for this
infection largely appears focused in the #31-32 gap. However I
largely feel the two infections are mostly co-existent rather than
cause-effect. Quite reasonably the original abscess on extracted
tooth #30 was an original cause. Or going way back in time tooth
#29, which was extracted for braces 40 years prior could have left a
defect that ultimately got exploited by the periodontal disease.
NOTE - The spaces left behind by the second bicuspid teeth extracted
for braces, #4, #13, #20, #29 all became centers of periodontal
infection. Again, the presumption is the holes left behind became
starting points for later infiltration by the infection.
7 - tu-08-14-12 - SRP - t28 - Fast Track curettage on
aggressive abscess - 1h
8 - w-08-15-12 - SRP - t28 - Fast Track curettage on
aggressive abscess - 1h
9 - sa-08-18-12 to su-08-26-12 - mandibular spit gland - get
aggressive w deep massage & needle aspiration-irrigation - Plus
light curettage - 2h credit
10 - tu-08-28-12 - SRP - t28 - distal-lingual - M-Jack sickle - 2nd
abscess - bloody - deep scary drainage - lower alveolar nerve
involvement - 5h
11 - m-09-03-12 - SRP - t29 - distal - 3rd abscess -
deep investigation - bloody release - 7h
12 - w-09-05-12 - SRP - t6 eye - debride abscess flanking t7 -
4h
13 - su-09-09-14 - SRP - t6 - debride abscess - 2h
14 - tu-09-11-12 - SRP -t5-6 gap lingual - reak into abscess -
bloodbath - bucket & buckets - 10h - VIDEO
15 - tu-09-18-12 - SRP - t28 - 30pp - 1h
16 - w-09-19-12 - SRP - t28 - boring not much - 2h
17 - sa-09-22-12 - SRP - t3 - abscess - burst - bloody mess - 8h -
make video <>
18 - su-09-23-12 - SRP - t3 - more abscess curettage - finish
bleed out - 4h
19 - m-10-01-12 - SRP - t5-6-7 abscess - multi-abscess complex
- 2nd major debridement - 4h
20 - f-10-04-12 - SRP - t3 - extra curettage - 1h
21 - sa-10-06-12 - SRP - t28 - general abscess curettage - w
necrotic ligament - 4 hours
22 - su-10-07-12 - SRP - t28 - general abscess curettage
- w necrotic ligament - 7 hours
23 - tu-10-09-12 - SRP - t7 - secondary debridement - 3h
24 - w-10-10-12 - SRP - t5 - more secondary debridement - 3h
25 - th-10-11-12 - SRP - t28 - danger! - killer abscess alert
- Attack! - 5h
26 - sa-10-13-12 - SRP - t5 - general curettage - 1h
27 - w-10-17-12 - SRP - t28 - open up abscess - bloody mess -
3h
28 - sa-10-20-12 - SRP - t3 - general debridement - 2h
29 - su-10-21-12 - SRP - t19 - clear path to abscess -
4h
30 - m-10-22-12 - SRP - t19 - open & bleed out
double-abscess - 8h?
31 - th-10-25-12 - SRP - t21 - t3-9 - assorted debridement - 7h
32 - su-10-28-12 - SRP - t27 - clear perimeter of abscess - 6h
33 - m-10-29-12 - SRP - t3-5 - general curettage - 3h
34 - tu-10-30-12 - SRP - t3-5 - general curettage - 4h
35 - w-10-31-12 - SRP - t5 - general curettage - 1h?
36 - f-11-02-12 - SRP - t5-6-7 - general curettage -
cross-abscesses - 5h
37 - su-11-04-12 - SRP - t27-28 - relieve abscess - 4th? -
debride interdental calculus monstrosity - 8h
38 - w-11-14-12 - SRP - t28 - more abscess curettage - 8h?
39 - sa-11-17-12 - SRP - t3-6 - general curettage - 1h
40 - f-11-23-12 - SRP - t28 - t6 - t19 - general curettage -
3h
41 - su-11-25-12 - SRP - t28-m - more curettage - 5h
42 - tu-11-27-12 - SRP - t28 - t5-6 - general curettage - 3h
43 - w-11-28-12 - SRP - t27 - deep curettage - good release -
1h
44 - sa-12-01-12 - SRP - t31-32 gap - general curettage - 5h
45 - su-12-02-12 - SRP - t31-32 gap - general curettage - 5h
46 - f-12-07-12 - SRP - t31-32 - open up abscess - 4h
47 - su-12-09-12 - SRP - t31-32 - bleed out abscess - 1h
48 - su-12-09-12 - SRP - t6 - general debridement - 1h
49 - tu-12-11-12 - SRP - t6 - general debridement - 1h
50 - th-12-20-12 - SRP - t5-6 gap - general debridement - 4h
TOTAL SRP - 174 hours - k
= = =
START 2013
m-01-07-13 - SRP - t31-d - general curettage - 4h
th-01-10-13 - SRP - t31-d - general curettage - 4h
sa-01-12-13 - SRP - t31-d - general curettage - 1h
f-02-15-13 - SRP - t5-b - general curettage - 1h
sa-02-16-13 - SRP - t31-d - general curettage - 1h
su-02-17-13 - SRP - t31-d - general curettage - 1h
m-02-18-13 - SRP - t31-d - general curettage - 1h
sa-02-23-13 - SRP - t5-b - 40pp & blood - 3h
su-02-24-13 - SRP - t5-b - general curettage - 2h
tu-02-26-13 - SRP - t28-d - general curettage - 1h
f-03-01-13 - SRP - t6 - general curettage - 1h
su--03-03-13 - SRP - t28 - general curettage - 1h
m-03-04-13 - SRP - t5 - general curettage - 1h
w-03-06-13 - SRP - t28-m - general curettage - 2h
th-03-07-13 - SRP - t30-d - general curettage - 1h
m-03-11-13 - SRP - t5-bd - general curettage - 4h
sa-03-16-13 - SRP - t28-d - general curettage - 1h
sa-03-23-13 - SRP - t5-bd - lots of debris & deep blood - 5h
su-03-24-13 - SRP - t5bd & 32b - general curettage - 1h
sa-04-06-13 - SRP - t31-bd - general curettage - 1h
su-04-07-13 - SRP - t31-bd - general curettage - 2h
w-04-10-13 - SRP - t5d - deep - major - crud & deep blood - 6h
th-04-11-13 - SRP - t4-d - revisitation - 1h
sa-04-13-13 - SRP - 3l-d - definitive! - 7h?
su-04-14-13 - SRP - 31-L - definitive! - 3h
tu-04-16-13 - SRP - 3m - debride infraorbital nerve area - 1h
w-04-17-13 - SRP - t28 & t3-4 - general curettage - 1h
sa-04-20-13 - SRP - t31-dl - lots & lots - 2h?
m-04-22-13 - SRP - t32dl - major debride - tooth loose 2-axis - 5h
f-04-26-13 - SRP - t3-5 gap - major debride - deep blood - 6h
sa-04-27-13 - SRP - t3-5 gap - touch up debride - 1h
su-04-28-13 - SRP - t7 - filthy! - 1h?
m-04-29-13 - SRP - t-20-28 - general sweep - 3h
th-05-02-13 - SRP - t31-dl - major debride - 5h
f-05-03-13 - SRP - t31-dl - stragglers - 2h
su-05-05-13 - SRP - t5 - good debride - 3h
w-05-08-13 - SRP - t31-dl - stragglers - 1h?
sa-05-11-13 - SRP - t28 - touch-up - 1h?
tu-05-14-13 - t5 - irrigate - lots of blood - 1h credit
sa-05-18-13 - SRP - t31 - general curettage - 1h
tu-05-21-13 - SRP - t31-mb - bust into abscess - 5h
w-05-22-13 - SRP - t3-5 gap - deep primary debride - 3h
su-05-26-13 - SRP - t32-ml - major debride - bloody - 1h
tu-05-28-13 - SRP - t6 - lots & lots - 20pp - 1h?
su-06-09-13 - SRP - t31-mb - major debride - 5h
tu-06-11-13 - SRP - t3-5 - persistent necrotic periodontal membrane
- 1h?
th-06-13-13 - SRP - t31-ml - major abscess debride & bleed - 4+4
= 8h
sa-06-15-13 - SRP - t31-L - more debride - necrotic membrane?
- 6h
th-06-20-13 - SRP - t31-dlb - general curettage - 2h
sa-06-22-13 - SRP - t3-5 - attempt cementum & dead membrane - 1h
tu-06-25-13 - t31-ml - irrigate out lots of crud - 1h credit
th-06-27-13 - SRP - t32-ml & t5-6 - scaly stuff - 1h?
su-06-30-13 - SRP - t31-L - general curettage - 1h?
th-07-04-13 - t31 - toothpick - zero hours credit
f-07-05-13 - SRP - t5-6 - significant - 1h?
m-07-08-13 - SRP - 31-L - lots & lots - 6h
tu-07-09-13 - SRP - 31-L - general debride - 1h?
w-07-10-13 - SRP - t3-5 - QoH - 1h?
su-07-14-13 - SRP - t31 - honey irrigation - 3h => 1h credit
m-07-15-13 - SRP - t30 - significant curettage - 1h?
f-07-18-12 - SRP - t3-5 - deep abscess w granulation tissue - 5h?
sa-07-20-12 - SRP - t31-L - general curettage - 1h?
w-07-24-13 - SRP - t3-5 - furcator - 1h
th-07-25-13 - t31 - honey - zero hours credit
sa-07-27-13 - SRP - t3-5 -furcator - 1h?
tu-07-30-13 - SRP - t6 - montana jack - 1h
f-08-02-13 - t31 - honey - zero hours credit
th-08-08-13 - SRP t30 - necrotic periodontal membrane - 1h?
MORE MORE MORE - TO BE CONTINUED... REST OF 2012. PLUS 2013 &
2014... LOTS AND LOTS OF DEBRIDEMENT DONE
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GENERAL NOTES
Saturday May 6, 2006 --
Cleaning my own teeth -- Cleaning out tooth 14. One article I
read said that pockets might need to be cleaned out multiple
times. Largely it looks like I gave tooth 14 a pretty
reasonable scraping. What it sounds like is that it would be
very helpful if I gave tooth 14 a regular scraping. Or at
least a secondary scraping fairly soon. But not right
away. In the meantime making sure to floss that one tooth very
regularly. Possibly there is a chance to turn that tooth
around.
tooth scraping. Additionally to working my way to some of the
different teeth. It does not sound like there is any real
problem there. As long as I am careful. Any reduction in
the amount of plaque is good. Would be good to get an idea
about the procedure. But to a degree at least it sounds like
common sense. My confidence on using the dental tool has been
increased. I think I can give it a reasonable go. It
seems that it is in to get the angle right. Additionally if I
work the one tooth then I can make improvements in the worst
area. Additionally I can locate other problem areas.
Flossing. What do they call it? Preaching to the
choir. Or otherwise. Time to wake up and smell the
coffee. Time to start flossing.
= = =
Monday, May 8, 2006 -- 9 15 a.m.
Cleaning the teeth. The general idea is to run the dental tool
under the gums with very little actual contact. Quite easily
enough the dirty areas bleed. When they do... what looks like
clotted blood apparently is plaque. Which apparently has a
slime component to it. Combined with serious amounts of
bacteria. It is this combination that poisons the gums.
Otherwise the general idea is that the root surface is supposed to
be fairly smooth. Rough sections are indicators of the hard
stuff... known as calculus. Which also serves to attract
plaque.
Identification of plaque and calculus -- resembling blood
clots. In any case... what has been happening is that as I run
the dental tool underneath the gums it has set off significant
bleeding. When I spit out the blood it contains what looks
like blood clots. Apparently these blood clots are
plaque. Reason for this is the coincidence. That when I
come across roughness, which suggests calculus, then I rub or scrape
those areas, then I get the blood clots when I spit. This
suggests that the blood clots are in fact calculus and plaque.
With virtual certainty for most of them. But not with complete
certainty for all of them. Basically meaning to be careful.
-- This basically refers to the ridges or ledges. Where
I am afraid that I am cutting away bone. Chiseling structure
of my teeth away. But... realistically... looking at the
photograph of a tooth covered with calculus... it seems more likely
that the tooth is covered with serious calculus. So forget
about it. Does not sound likely that I am chipping away
bone. Additionally I should see pieces of bone if I'm chipping
it away.
Cleaning in stages. When I cleaned tooth 14 a membrane
like material protruded out of the gums. Suggesting some type
of attachment to an inner area. Suggesting so much filth
inside the pocket that cleaning it out served to bring more filth to
the fore. Or that there were layers upon layers of nasty
stuff. Meaning that after a basic cleaning that there is still
a significant amount of filth left over. Suggesting multiple
treatments. I gave it 2 treatments. There is still more
to go. As example a fairly large piece became liberated today.
Irrigation. This seems real important. to get a water
pick and to get anything loose that is still in there. Idea
seems to be that there is a lot of crud that did not come
loose. That might just reattach itself too. So I should
probably get to that right away. Can probably buy a water pick
at Walgreens for like 50 bucks. Or more. Idea seeming to
be to get matters taken care of with the teeth as soon as
possible. With issue about whether I can realistically get
that pocket clean on tooth 14. With questions about whether
that is plaque at the very bottom. Suggesting that I need to
get the x-rays from Dr. S.
X-rays. Need to see a periodontist. Should try to get
the x-rays from Dr. S. Realistically makes no sense for me to
try to do the work of the dental hygienist. But rather to
simply stabilize the situation. Meaning to clean out the
obvious.
= = =
Tuesday May 9, 2006 -- postmidnight
Tooth cleaning technique. The general idea was to not do
anything. Simply run the tool underneath the gums. The
result though was that quite extreme amounts of filth were
released. Appearing as blood clots. When I squeezed them
they seemed to turn into nothing. Or just a small core
surrounded by bloody crud. Which corresponds with the general
description of plaque. It also fulfills the basic strategy to
disrupt the bacteria. And to remove the debris. The net
result is that right now movement of the tool produces very little
results. Suggesting that most of the plaque has been removed.
Teeth cleaning -- starting with tooth 14. So... cleaned tooth
14 late Friday night. Learning about tooth scaling and tooth
planing. Putting logic together to go underneath the gum
line. Sounds like I read about issue prior to getting
started. Got highly concerned about the issue because I
figured my teeth were still filthy after the cleaning. So what
am I supposed to do ? With initial effort on tooth 14
resulting in significant numbers of those blood clots.
Additionally with membranous material protruding out from the
gums. Giving me a general impression that tooth 14 was quite
filthy. That first evening I wrote down that I spent 3 hours
cleaning tooth 14. Which sounds kind of bizarre. But not
necessarily incorrect. With large clots and small clots going
on and on. Additionally with areas getting scraped and
becoming at least partially clean. With second round on
Saturday night. Sounding like close to four hours on tooth
14. With additional time spent then checking out the general
vicinity. But not in a methodical way.
Teeth cleaning -- rest of the teeth. Finally making a
methodical round of all of my teeth late Sunday evening for
approximately 2 hours. With a concerted amount of those blood
clots becoming released. With some presumed additional
activity yesterday. Along with the water pick.
Specifically the areas in back of the teeth in between the
teeth. Specifically got at least one blood clot yesterday that
was quite huge. Obviously a pocket that was very filthy.
How many clots? If I had to guess to add up all of the big
clots I would say that tooth 14 must have delivered a good 10 of
them. Along with dozens upon dozens of smaller clots.
Would have to say that the rest of the teeth must have delivered at
least 10 additional big clots. Also along with dozens upon
dozens of smaller ones. Even today I got at least one very
large clot from in between my upper right back teeth.
Current situation. I have a good idea that most of my mouth
has been fairly well cleaned. Do not think the technique was
particularly harmful. With today producing significant amounts
of blood. Seems like the next stage is to let my gums
recover. Over at least a week. Realistically for 2
weeks. Maybe even forgetting about it for 3 weeks to a
month. Then trying the entire process again. With a set
of gums that has had ample time to recover. Kept clean with
the irrigation. Quite a brave new world. Clean
gums. Currently waiting for the recovery phase to take
affect. As said, for at least a week. Even then sounds
too soon.
= = =
Saturday June 10, 2006 -- 5 p.m. -- post Midnight Madness
Friday night cleaning -- 12am to 5am. Major scraping of upper
teeth. After approximately 1 month after original cleaning
sequence.. With intermittent scraping since then. With
efforts largely focused on breaking ledges. Plus fighting
isolated areas.... Good job. Major plaque and large
blobs. Including dealing with the back side of tooth 14.
Plus where it connects with tooth 15.
Progressive cleaning. Get the and idea that scraping tends to
get to the most persistent large areas of plaque. With the large
blobs being the destruction. Analogy is to a gang
leader. Where the underlings survive the destruction.
Then grow tofill in the niche left behind by the leader. With
plaque clinging to the calculus. Even functioning as a
mechanism to get leverage on the calculus. So... after a
cleaning... the plaque will start to reform. Suggesting to go
back and clean up more plaque. But... the second time around
more of the individual portions of plaque and calculus will be
cleaned away. Suggesting that the second round becomes cleaner
than the first round. Etc.. But still working in gross
proportions for at least the first 2 rounds. With its sounding
like to additional rounds or four rounds are required to get
toreasonable cleanliness.
Ultrasonic tooth scaler. Getting an itch to buy an ultrasonic
scaler from eBay. Realistically it sounds like I am convinced
to clean my own teeth. I don't trust dentists.
Essentially I want to show up with a clean mouth. Based on the
principle of matters not getting worse... as long as I stay on top
of it. Hence $200 spent on a tooth scaler might be just as
good as an investment as $200 spent on cleaning. Especially
since I am getting to know my mouth.
Note -- 7/17/06 -- comment on dentists was somewhat frivolous.
Think the idea is still to show up with a fairly clean mouth.
Idea is to end up with a perfectly clean mouth once the dental
hygienist scales my teeth. Which would seem easier to do that
my teeth are already somewhat clean. Rather than completely
filthy.
Realistically it would not be very smart to try to use an
ultrasonic scaler myself. But the thought was
reasonable. Leading to the purchase of the Gracy
scalers. With additional obvious results that the initial
removal of plaque was just dancing on the subject. Where I
counted dozens of blobs of plaque and thought I was seeing a lot.
= = =
Wednesday June 14, 2006 -- 11:50 p.m.
Cleaned tooth 14 again this morning. For approximately 3
hours. From 8 a.m. to 11 a.m.. With much of the starting
part consisting of going up against persistent blocks of plaque
along the inside back portion of the tooth. Then identifying
and going after the ledge. Which has seemed persistent
throughout that tooth. With the idea that the ledge is
difficult to get in a single encounter. But that it becomes
progressively weaker when it's lieutenants are taken out. When
the different sections become isolated. Had at least 2
scrapings that resulted in major blood. With the first one
disappearing quickly down the drain. So it was hard to
identify its components. With a second one resulting in at
least one identification of what appeared to be a fairly significant
block of calculus. Additionally with a stringy type
substance. Plus serious blobs. Would have to say that
this encounter was at least as bloody as the previous ones.
Looking like tooth 14 has gotten at least 3 major sessions.
Plus several minor sessions. With at least five hours spent on
that one tooth.
Starve the plaque. Idea that it will take at least 3 days for
tooth 14 to normalize again. Even a week. With a policy
of no food residue. With idea being to give my immune system
the opportunity to get ahead of the infection. Additionally
get the idea that the blood that gets released also gets rid of the
toxins.
tooth 14. Get the idea that tooth 14 is a lot better off than
it was. With an first round initial cleaning that got rid of a
lot of nasty stuff. But with it being quite clear that there
was major structural issue regarding calculus. Essentially
there was still a wall of plaque around the tooth. Where the
first round certainly chipped a good portion of it away. But
still left a lot behind. Second round within a few days went
after some of those structures. This tended toisolate the
ledges. Or bring them into focus or relief. With idea
that the ledges are similar torings. Where the idea becomes to
break part of the ring. Find it guilty. Meaning to identify it
as non-tooth. Then to go after the rest of it. Then
finally to get the stragglers. With trauma to the gums in the
meantime. Meaning that several rounds are required. This
last round I focused on the ledges. Got a major number of
bloody blobs. Suggesting that the next round will go much
cleaner.
Missing gum. There is a lot less gum on the left side than on
the right side. Looking in the mirror. Part of this
might be due to swelling. So will get a better answer in a few
days. But what is even more scary is that the gum that is
there feels mushy. Suggesting there isn't any bone behind
it. Again do not have the answer. Worth investigating
once the swelling goes down. Or in about a week. In the
meantime I should ignore it and be glad that it didn't go on for
another 2 years.
Multiple rounds required. With it being clear that even an
extensive attempt was leaving a lot behind. Possibly this is
due to burnishing the calculus. Where a gross amount of
calculus is liberated. But much of what is left gets smoothed
down. Hence meaning that the calculus has to get rough and
began before it becomes vulnerable. Which presumably takes a
little bit of time. This supports the theory of progressive
cleaning. Where leftover calculus reforms itself with new
plaque. Thereby becoming more vulnerable to the next
round. Additionally suggesting that multiple sessions are
required. Like some major splinter with minor splinters.
Where the major of the minors then becomes the most present.
= = =
Thursday June 22, 2006 -- post Gracy Curettes. Tooth
14. Post gum injury. Slicing right through the
gum. First breaking curette #4. Then missing causing
damage. Using so-called pullout strategy. Then finally
causing damage. With at least four or five total
opportunities. Any one of which could have sliced clean
through the gum. But where I did not learn my lesson until I
sliced clean through the gum. Be thankful I did not hurt
myself more. No more activity until the gum is healed.
Then stay away from the gum for 2 weeks to one month. HOW
COULD I DO THIS? WHY DIDN'T I WORK AROUND THE PROBLEM AREA
MORE GENTLY?
Purchase arrived. Received at Gracy curettes yesterday.
Boiled them. Copied a tooth map. Practiced identifying
which one was which. Then got an itch to practice.
Starting on my front teeth. But the curettes would not
fit. Then deciding to make a go on Tooth 14.
Gracy Tooth 14. At first the curette got caught along the
general surface of tooth 14. Starting in the back.
Without much progress. Then working on the front.
Presuming to use 7/8 for the main surface. But instead
apparently using 3/4. Got the idea to try to hook the calculus
under the edge of the blade.
Dangerous practices. But... the calculus was not very amenable
to breaking up. With the result that after I caught WHAT I
THOUGHT WAS an edge of calculus that I pulled to hard. Which
was very foolish. Resulting in breaking one of the prongs on
3/4. But I did not learn my lesson well enough from
that. Because I continued to pull on the calculus.
Resulting in the tool slipping several times. With me
rationalizing that I could point the tool in such a way that it
would pop out of the gum rather than slice. But ultimately the
tool sliced my gum clean through. For a little more than 1/16
of an inch. With the likely result that it will heal
fine. If I am careful with it and leave it alone for several
days.
Deposits on tooth 14. Practiced using the tool parallel to the
tooth. Resulting in numerous releases of both plaque and
calculus. With some of what was apparently calculus appearing
like a piece of fiber or sponge. With the plaque identified in
the usual way. With some of the blobs quite large.... In
particular remember using 13/14 to come around the back edge of the
tooth. Bringing in around. Resulting in a huge
disgusting mess. Consisting of a blob of plaque that seemed to
be like an inch long string. Including a piece of fiber that
seemed to be almost as large as a kernel of corn. Good thing
to get rid of that!
Up and around technique. This seemed to be a reasonable way to
hook the calculus. Which was to approach from below.
Catching an edge. Then bringing around the tool to pull down
on the calculus. Presuming that the edge shifted around.
While maintaining a secure footing. With the thinking being of
collapsing the calculus like a scaffold. With the certain
objective of trying to break off much larger pieces of calculus than
in the immediate area. Additionally with the awareness that
the calculus could not be readily approached from the inside.
So it makes sense to approach largely from the side, angling from
the bottom. With the idea of breaking the edge along a
row. Starting from the back corner and working my way around
to the front. Largely this technique seemed to work quite
successfully. With no expectation that it is any
panacea. But if it took me 2 hours on a single tooth then how
much progress can a dental hygienist reasonably make in even an hour
on the one tooth. Since I have spent roughly 9 hours on that
one tooth. With a long way to go.
Summary... is that the Up and around Technique seemed to
dislodge seriously large pieces of calculus. Along with
the apparent dismemberment of the ledge. With a current
moratorium for at least a week. If not for 2 weeks before
checking out that area again. In order to allow for as
complete healing as possible. Under the very unfortunate and
precarious natural conditions of that tooth.
Dossier of crud. t14. With moratorium for at least a
week. Because of sliced gum.
-- Gracy t13/14 wind around the front -- resulting in huge blob of
plaque. Plus large piece of calculus. Both Jumbo size.
-- Gracy t7/8 -- winding around the front -- attacking ledge.
With Up and Around technique. Resulting in multiple large
pieces of plaque.
-- Gracy t7/8 surface "planing" -- resulting in a reasonably smooth
tooth. Plus isolation of the edge. Multiple multiple
blobs.
-- Back of tooth -- serious blobs of crud.
-- overall assessment -- dozens of blobs. Imagining the
totality as comparable to the totality of everything removed so
far. But realistically the amount of crud seemed to be at
least as much as was captured and removed on other occasions
Bottom Line. Tooth 14 was filthy.
= = =
Friday, June 23, 2006 -- 9 a.m. -- post cleaning tooth 14 with gum
injury.
Gum injury. 1 full day since gum injury. 36 hours with
first 12 hours discounted out..... Good idea to wait until at least
four days. 96 hours. Or until Monday. Then to
procrastinate for a few days. Since original injury was a
complete slice through the gum. Quite serious.
Tooth problems. Went to Sowell on May 5. Seven weeks
ago. Cleaning tooth 14 that Saturday. Then more over the
next few days. Then episodically. Mainly in the first
week of June. Then a week later. Finally with the Gracy
curettes. For a total of 26 hours in 13 sessions. Versus
an estimate for a dental hygienist of four sessions of 2 hours
each.. Or eight hours. Suggesting that the hours are
somewhat reasonable compared with the task. Especially with me
not knowing what I was doing. With the activity largely being
to clean all of the teeth in early May. Then waiting a month
and doing it again. Resulting in serious blobs. Then
continuing process every few days. Finally with the Gracy
curettes.
Results are that tooth 14 is loose. With concern that I might
have cut into bone. But realistically... if something is
butted up against the tooth then it seems likely that it is calculus
and not bone. Additionally if the angle of attack comes off of
tooth then the likely substance is calculus.
Analysis... If I would have gotten on to the situation right away
with a periodontists I might have gained a month or so. Since
I just got to real scaling on tooth 14. Alternately tooth 14
would have taken several attempts. So might not be very far
behind.
Analysis.... So far I have gotten rid of quite remarkable quantities
of crud. Several dozen large pieces on my first attempt.
Plus multiplicities of small pieces. Additional large pieces
on additional attempts. Including getting to the difficult
angles that I missed the first time. Which includes events
with blood on the prong. Additionally including grand bloody
events. Where just running the prong underneath the gums
liberated massive quantities of blood and blobs. Numbering in
the dozens on almost every swipe. Meaning that a grand
cleaning was taking place. From a filthy baseline. Also
apparently resulting in less blood the next time around.
Suggesting improvements in the gum health. From a filthy
baseline.
Analysis... Presuming that the liberation of the blood is
good. Indeed it is a very good process. Presuming that
the poisons have worked their way into the blood. Additionally
that the blood that is being liberated is largely the blood that was
poisoned. So... blood blood cleansing blood... is true...
blood blood cleansing blood. Additionally is the entire
concept of reducing the level of poisoning. Presuming that I
have eliminated say... 75%. Or even at least 50%?
Strategies...
-- Presumption to follow classic policy. Which is the removal
of calculus and plaque as the primary strategy.
-- Presumption to believe classic policy. Which is that
removal of plaque and strategy will provide relief to gums, bone and
teeth. That that destruction becomes halted.
-- My primary strategy being to get ahead of the situation. By
cleaning my teeth in advance of the hygienist. In addition by
mapping out the problem. This should result in alleviating
some of the symptoms. So the periodontists and the hygienist
can get results faster.
-- Analogy is a timeline. Where my efforts presumably mimic
the timeline. So I am doing part of what they would be doing
anyway. So my progress after seven weeks is not so bad.
Concerns...
-- gap between tooth 14 and 15. With no apparent coverage by
gum material. Is this an open wound? With the bone
pointing out into open space. With no gum at all? Or is
this remnant tooth
-- ledge on the back of tooth 14. How deep does this go?
Tactile sensations.... With ledges... it feels like I am
running into a wall. Then as I wind the tool around it feels
like I am leveraging a shovel underneath a rock. NOTE... seems
to make sense to catch the far end of the curette on the edge of the
plaque. But... this would seem natural... since the ledge is
deep. Hence only likely to get the end of the curette rather
than the metal.
With rough areas... it feels like I am ironing a rug. Or
scraping paint off of a pane of glass with a razor blade.
Evening purchase on eBay. Checked out eBay. Saw another
set of Gracy curettes for $19? Instant decision to
purchase. Meanwhile purchased two different sickle
scalers. The U-15/33 sickle and the H-6/7 sickle.
Apparently the H-6/7 is very popular. But it turns out that
both items are mainly applicable for above the gum line. With
some indication that they can be used below the gum line too.
Additionally I bought two dental mirrors and a probe. More or
less providing me with two sets of dental tools. With
reasonable variety. Though the sickle scalers seem largely
wasted. Meanwhile don't seem to have anything narrow enough
for the front teeth. Imagining the McCall 13/14 S.
Realistically though my set of Gracy's are cheap. Real
cheap. A real set would cost $150. Perhaps that would
have been better than to buy two cheap sets. Perhaps I could
have even bought something ergonomic. For around $140.
But will let it go. Just having a set of dental tools at all
is pretty cool. Much less two sets of Gracy's. Which is
borderline... very strange. Having used up the Gracy.
Gracy. Additionally with Gracy being the flagship of
curettes. So presumably a full set of Gracy's is a full set of
curettes. Over the years other curettes have found greater
favor. But the Gracy's by definition are complete all by
themselves. Hence additional curettes become enhancements on
the basic set. Meaning that there is nothing missing. If
I can add something that is great. But if I cannot add
anything that is okay to. Though Universal scalers sound kind
of cool.
The whole idea of the Gracy's is pretty cool. Dr. Clayton H.
Gracy teaming up with Hugo Friedman during the 1930s and
1940s. With the curettes standing the test of time.
Deep calculus dilemma. Originally thought that the sickles
scaler might be good for deep calculus. But sounds like I am
wrong. Since the sickles scaler is used mainly for above the
gum. With the obvious implication that it is the deepest
calculus that is the most dangerous. Like a bullet deep inside
a person that needs to become removed. With the question how
it to get to deepest calculus when the disaster was so great.
With the calculus now mixed in with residual bone. Which is
which?
Apparently this is a common problem. Known as the deep
calculus dilemma. What to do? How to do it? What
is the answer? Apparently it is ultrasonic. Meaning that
curettes have a basic flaw in approaching an inside from the
outside. My up and around method was my own made up
strategy. Which seems to make sense. How to get more
depth than you have. How to get a singular projection to cover
a lot of ground. With my idea being for a small pressed
section wound around to take out a nice big chunk of calculus when
it gives itself up. Which I got. Some nice large pieces
of calculus which presumably will not poison my gums anymore.
With the hope that largely fragments are left behind. Meaning
that left over pieces of ledge can be disposed of reasonably easily.
With my objective being to eliminate latent calculus below the gum
line. Which is important. Where getting a good clean
start is a positive step. Using the gangbusters
philosophy. Whereby the small pieces takeover large areas of
neighborhood. Hence making themselves vulnerable to the
curette.
Issue of burnishing. Apparently with an ultrasonic at
low-power. But leaving the idea that if I can break up most of
the major areas of calculus then that makes it much easier for the
dental hygienist. What I imagine is a fairly clean field where
the dental hygienist makes it virtually spotless. NOTE --
apparently burnished calculus is a serious problem. Perhaps I
have burnished a fair amount of calculus already. With the
result that this calculus is difficult to remove. So perhaps
it will take hours and hours of effort.
= = =
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 -- per second round with Gracy during
Tuesday June 27, 2006 -- Approximately 1 hour in evening -- Clean
tooth #1 with Gracy. With virtual empty space between tooth #1
and tooth #2. Clearly indicating severe bone loss.
Basically meaning that all of my upper molars are in dire straits.
Gracy methodology. Regarding method... the analogy seems to be
akin to a heavy and sharp wedge type blade. On a rough stone
or piece of wood. Like two somewhat large masses coming
together. By this... the stone or tooth seems to stop a
heavy-handed light stroke right in its tracks. Additionally
can almost visualize the blade scraping along the tooth.
Catching and slipping as it goes.
Dangers of overzealousness. A significant slip is BAD.
As I learned with my cut gum. BTW the cut gum is starting to
heal after almost a week. With hesitation to do anything
before now. Concerned about risk of infection.
Additionally the gum around tooth #14 is still very tender. 10
days after going after the shelf ledge. Five days after the
Gracy. Presuming somewhat light scraping activity on a tender
area. Realistically the gum is going to stay tender for at
least a few more days. Presuming to stay away for now.
With other areas to work in the meantime.
Workable Gracy methodology. Seems to be to think in terms of
skipping the surface. Dislodging the high points.
Isolating the bulk. Otherwise there is a high risk of
slipping. Especially if force is increased. Resulting in
high danger. Both from possible major slips, gouges and
scratches. Additionally there is a general prognosis of
scratching. Best strategy seems to be to dislodge the plaque
and calculus methodically. Since each time high points are
removed what is left becomes more exposed and accessible.
Isolating the filth -- gangbusters. Ultimately this leads to
isolating the bulk of the calculus and plaque. Can imagine a
battle zone against a tank. With large rocks that stop the
tank right in its tracks. Rather than to try to take out both
the large rocks in the small rocks it seems to make sense to break
up the larger rocks progressively. Eventually the surface is
smoother than it was.
Break up large promontories. Or... similar late to any other
work area. Where the first objective is to take out the large
promontories. Once these are dealt with then the lower
elevations will naturally become easier to work with.
Previously being protected by the higher elevations. Also akin
to gangbusters. Where taking out the kingpins tends to expose
the underlings. Or like a rock garden. Or ballast for a
train track. Where the idea is to progressively remove the
large rocks. Where this progressively improves the working
conditions. Leading to rocks of a consistently small
size. Or in my case to light plaque that is easily scraped or
washed away. That is the goal.
Objective -- small homogeneous objects. With the way to get
there being start with removing the largest projections. With
this also including isolating the large projections. As
example a large projection might originally be too difficult to
remove. But if everything else around it gets removed then it
becomes isolated. Like a statue with a footing in the
ground. Or surrounded with debris. Remove that and the
statue becomes more vulnerable.
Progressive strategy -- per each tooth. Term has multiple
meanings. One being to progressively get each tooth cleaner
and cleaner. Second meaning being to progressively work from
tooth to tooth. Clearly... my teeth are a lot cleaner than
they were. With previously intensive infiltration and
destruction from calculus and plaque. Akin to a completely
filthy house filled with several feet of dirt and slime. Where
an initial cleaning makes good progress. But where any
objective judgment views the result as still completely
filthy. With initial cleanings resulting in dozens of major
blobs of plaque and calculus. Resulting in hundreds of flecks
of presumed calculus and plaque. Resulting in significant
hugely major blobs. Interpreted as areas of complete
infestation.
Progressive strategy -- per tooth to tooth. So... the idea is
that I can go from tooth to tooth in the evenings before bed.
With the likelihood that each trial will result in the discovery and
destruction of one or more major infestations. With each
infestation being an ongoing disaster in the making. With an
assumption of several attempts at each site in order to achieve a
modicum of ongoing cleanliness. With an additional assumption
that within a month or so the plan will be to see a
periodontists. Including getting a deep cleaning. But
with my activity being somewhat to an ongoing deep cleaning.
Getting the process started.
Progressive strategy -- per level of progress. Additionally
with a progressive strategy. As example... once I am convinced
that I have isolated and disrupted most of the major pockets then it
makes sense to try antibacterial strategies, such as peroxide and
salt. But without a clean environment these strategies are not
as effective. Idea being to save them up. With cleaning
things up under the gum line being the obvious first line
directive. Repeated over and over again. To the point
where it can be viewed as a law of nature. Always observed as
obvious.
Tooth 14. Idea seems to be to stay away from it for now.
To progressively work my other teeth until the gums are not sore
anymore. With presumption that tooth 14 is still filthy.
Additionally that the inside contains some serious ledges.
Which will require multiple attempts to dislodge. Meaning that
I want to start off with the gums as healed as possible.
Open gums. Presuming that some of their open look is due to
swelling. But... some of it is likely due to pathology of some
type. Possibly including damage caused by me. But... I
did not get a general sense of ripping open healthy gum....
But... clearly the gums are quite open right now. Possibly
this effect and look will diminish over a period of time. Also
possibly some of this issue might be due to use of the water
pick. Plus how I brush my teeth.
Issue of plaque dynamic on gums. Also some of the open gum
swelling undoubtedly is the result of continued plaque
infection. Brought to watershed by the cleaning process.
Like dirt under the rug that gets swept out. Causing brand-new
problems that did not exist to such a degree as long as the dirt was
kept under the rug. Here... disrupting the plaque released
toxins in large quantities. It also created an environment
amenable to brand-new high metabolism plaque. Which presumably
puts out high levels of toxins. Hence a phase has been
initiated and created. Idea being that the gums will likely
settle out into a less swollen phase once some of the plaque gets
cleared out.
Issue of tipping point environment theory. Idea that
previously plaque and calculus had the upper hand. Causing
ongoing destruction. That a so-called clean environment
extended over a period of time would give my natural healing
processes the upper hand. That between these two points are
various balances between conditions. Some favoring the
plaque. Some favoring my natural healing processes. That
my objective is to progressively get my teeth cleaner. That in
some areas it is likely that the tipping point is in favor of my
natural healing processes. But where gangbusters certainly
improves matters. Like shifting an area of complete disaster
into simply a high crime area. Providing a basis of eventually
improving matters to a hygienic level.
Components of debris -- most everything goes through some type of
inspection. Does it make sense to collect any of this?
-- large bloody blobs -- look to be plaque. Sometimes with a
kernel of obvious calculus. Sometimes tending to disintegrate.
-- large stringy bloody blobs -- looked to be highly significant
areas of interest station. to multiple bloody blobs.
-- small to medium flecks -- Blob like and bloody. Fleck light
and red. Or brown. Presume as calculus or plaque.
Produced in quantities of hundreds and hundreds. As an ongoing
process clearly these are filth that is being washed away.
-- pieces of fluff -- guessing these as fossilized plaque. Or
possibly as a variety of calculus.
-- scum -- yellowish in composition. Guessing these as
ambiguous combination of plaque and calculus.
Summary -- overall idea of getting teeth and gums progressively
cleaner. Where I have conducted gang buster activities it
seems highly likely that the previous balance was in favor of
plaque. With possibilities that ongoing balance is also in
favor of plaque. With clarity that previous environment was
pathological. With assessment that lack of a pathological
condition is good. It is good to reach the point where ongoing
destruction is not taking place anymore. Where even a seed of
health has gotten started.
= = =
Friday, June 30, 2006 -- Teeth 1, 2 and 3. Post round with Gracy
scalers evening of Thursday, June 29. From 10 p.m. until 1:30
p.m.. Or almost 3 1/2 hours. With breaks. Working
on Teeth 1, 2 and 3. Mostly on the insides. With major
plaque and calculus. With serious pit in front of Tooth
#1. With tricks to get appropriate angles.
Results. Got a general sense of getting rid of lots of
crud. With several major blobs. With large numbers of
smaller blobs. With flecks. Literally the scraping
produced streams of blobs, flecks and crud for several hours.
Obviously the area was previously quite filthy. Presumably now
it is much cleaner relatively. Plus possibly reasonably clean
in an overall basis.
Roughness. Sliding over rough areas can be tricky.
Presumably it is a good idea to get a full layer if it is
breakable. But not if there is a risk of slipping.
Meanwhile riding over the top should make the plaque easier to
dislodge. But not if the result is burnishing. But
typically a combination of activities will result in something
becoming dislodged. With blood and plaque and flecks to show
for it. Meaning that it was bad. With bottom line that
something which in retrospect is better off gone means that it is
also better off gone before the fact. Meaning that it needs to
be wiped out.
Teeth 1 through 3. Last night's activity represented my first
concerted effort on multiple teeth. With an objective of
achieving some kind of closure. Here the basic cleaning of
three individual teeth. With enough thoroughness and
investigation to consider that they... passed inspection. But with
likelihood of ledges still there. Additionally with the
likelihood of pockets of crud that got messed.
Strategy and methodologies for ledges.... With combination of
various methods apparently necessary to achieve results.
-- up and around method -- catching an edge from the side then
bringing the tool up and around. To attempt to dislodge a
large section. This method seems best for very large
ledges. It also seems to be a good overall practical
technique.
-- down from above method -- getting past the ledge. Then down
stroking. This method presumably risks breaking some of the
gum attachment. Additionally it would seem to leave a thin
ledge residue at the deepest portion. Which missed getting
caught.
-- side to side method -- getting a clean area on one side of the
ledge. Then sweeping across. This method seems like
normal methodical.
-- sickle method -- this would seem to be highly
unconventional. Potentially dangerous too. With idea to
stab the ledge. Then twisting to dislodge it. I
have this strategy in mind for the back of tooth 14. Where
there seems to be a thick deep ledge. But... there is no
suggestion of this strategy in any of the literature. But...
there does not seem to be much strategy regarding handling ledges
anyway.
Ongoing strategy. Basic strategy is progressive. To work
an area with the Gracy scalers to reasonable closure. Then to
give the area at least two weeks to heal and recover. Applying
gang buster philosophy. Presuming there will be ongoing filth
and crud. But also realizing that in fact I just got
started. With the Gracy's. Since the shepherds hook
might have released a lot of plaque and crud.
But the environment was so filthy that technically it wasn't much
cleaner than before. Going from perhaps a level 9 of filth to
say a level 5. With a reasonable judgment being that
borderline cleanliness starts to get achieved by perhaps level 2 or
3 or so. Not before.. With any environment above that
being pathological
Once I have worked around most of my teeth then I will be ready to
see the periodontist. With idea to go over the upper teeth to
give them a thorough cleaning. Based on already being fairly
clean already. So that any remnants of the ledges can be
broken. So that a good thorough cleaning will result in a
highly clean environment. Perhaps much cleaner than could
reasonably be expected. Since my time investment per tooth is
so much higher. Like 30 to 60 minutes per tooth. With
the hygienist working on a tooth that has already been significantly
cleaned.
Current situation -- per Tooth 14. Suggesting to generally
avoid Teeth 14 through 16 until the gums have recovered.
But... with some possibility for a light pass around Teeth 15 and 16
while waiting for Tooth 14 to recover. Idea here being to not
do enough to get the gum sore. But only for areas that are not
currently sore. Like Tooth 16 only. With idea being to
perhaps capture and destroy at least a few major pockets of
crud. While waiting for another week or so for tooth 14 to
become better recovered.
Current situation -- otherwise. Otherwise the idea is to keep
sweeping around. Particularly on my lower teeth. With
both notes and memory recalling that there were significant amounts
of plaque and crud. Where cleanup seems like it would not
result in huge amounts of filth. But that is good! With
the end result that my bottom teeth will basically become
clean. Meanwhile isolating the tooth 14 area. Where
several rounds of cleaning are necessary to bring about reasonable
progress and to get the area into reasonable hygienic
conditions. Guessing that at least two additional rounds are
needed. In addition to quite a number of rounds done so far.
-- The gums around Teeth 1 through 4 are now sore. Idea being
to keep track of how many days they stay sore. With basic idea
to stay away from this area for at least two weeks. Until the
middle of July.
-- The gums around Tooth 14 are still sore. After... 9
days. But apparently getting better. Post major ledge break up
with cut gum in the front. Which is less sore than the
back. Which mostly got a cursory attempt to break up
ledges. After major soreness created five days
prior. From failed attempts at breaking up ledges all around
the tooth. With the shepherds hook and angled explorer.
Conclusion -- current soreness is a result of activity on an area
that did not get a chance to properly recover. In another week
or so can work the area in spots. Staying away from the cut
until at least a month has gone by.
Summary... Idea now is to work around my teeth with the Gracy
scalers. I did not want to do it before because of the cut
gum. Which now seems to be recovering. So I can continue
the process. Largely staying away from Tooth 14. Working
the more peripheral areas. Like the bottom molars.
Waiting for my sickle scaler and other items. With this
process taking around a week. With 16 teeth to cover on the
bottom. Or at least six molars. Then presuming that my
Tooth 14 won't be so sore anymore. So I can work that tooth
too. With the result that in approximately 2 weeks I will have
swept my entire mouth with the Gracy scalers. With presumption
of an additional round of gangbusters. Then ready for the
periodontist.
Other stuff...
-- Wonder about all that bacteria. Get the idea that I am
getting temporarily overwhelmed. With both toxins and
bacteria. Causing a fever. Sounds possibly imaginary but
still likely. Did seem to get a post perio feeling. Plus
additionally stick from blood. Apparently that is completely
natural. To get sick from blood.
-- Salt treatment. Or other antibacterial. Like peroxide
and baking soda. Get the idea that the plaque is very fortress
like. Resisting penetration if it has depth. Suggesting
that I might hold back on the salt treatment until after I have
completed a basic sweep with the Gracy's.
-- As stated Gracy's are basically phase 2. Like approaching a
filthy house. Not particularly aware that it was previously
filled with 5 feet of mud. It just looks incredibly
filthy. Relative to a healthy state. Hence all of the
nastiness of the first round of cleanings did not really accomplish
anything. The result was still a pathological condition.
Just less pathological. Like a flood less flooded. The
operative word is to restore to help. Which requires a
hygienic environment.
-- Wondering about gum flaps. Between teeth 2 and 3.
Also between 14 and 15. With appearances of bone completely
exposed. Diagrammed it. With issues of bacteria
penetrating into the bone. With some weirdness that I might
try scraping the bone myself. But this is beyond weird.
Since it puts me into a position of being like a surgeon that is
blind operating on something that I not only do not understand but
which I do not even know exists. Best to make the assumption
that I am starting from getting a so-called normal tooth
cleaning. Which presumably should have carried me for a good
six months. Which is obviously a bull shit tale. But if
I hadn't caught the disease I would have continued on that
path. Oblivious to the fact that my mouth was filthy.
-- Wondering about the bone regeneration. In fact this is
largely a bogus subject. Dealing with the final
prognosis. Or end result. With reasonable expectation of
at least some regrowth of ball on. Additionally with
expectation that shards should tend to regenerate themselves into
larger entities. With additional consideration that gum
reattachment will tend to preserve functionality. Even if
significant bone is lost. With ultimate expectation being...
to floss
= = =
Tuesday, July 4, 2006 -
Activity with Gracy's. So... did some good activity on my
teeth. With the Gracy's. With net results that both
sides of my upper molars have gotten a recent treatment. With
left side more fragmented and cursory. But with general sense
that the overall coverage has been reasonable. And that a more
comprehensive methodical cleaning can wait for a few days. To
let the soreness die down. To wait until I can spend a good
two hours on the subject.
Total activity is 8 hours of cleaning. With the Gracy's. That
should result in some reasonable progress.
-- Tuesday 6/27/06 -- tooth #1 -- cleaned major pockets and
blobs. 1 hour.
-- Wednesday 6/28/06 -- tooth #1 - #3 -- cleaned outside
perimeter. Major pockets and blobs. 1 hour.
-- Thursday 6/29/06 -- tooth #1 - #2 -- cleaned inside
perimeter. Major pockets and blobs. Amazingly
slow. 3 1/2 hours. AMAZING.
-- Sunday 7/2/06 -- tooth #14. -- cleaned inside
perimeter. Major pockets and blobs. Plus worked on
ledge. 2 1/2 hours. Amazing.
Summary -- Additional 8 hours. As initial start of the Gracy
phase. With pockets and blobs and ledges galore. With a
good amount of ledge left on tooth 14. With other additional
areas obviously problematic. With obvious amounts of major
filth previously eliminated. But with this trial being
the first to get matters reasonably close to becoming reasonably
clean. Essentially meaning a beginning to a beginning of a
clean phase. Phasing out the end of the filthy phase.
= = =
Thursday, July 6, 2006
Prior situation. Starting Wednesday, June 21. On tooth
14. After prior efforts with hook. Then purchase of
Gracy's on Sunday, June 18. Leading to cleaning front of tooth
14. Dislodging and washing away great amounts of filth.
Leading to cutting gum and weeklong moratorium. Then cleaning teeth
1-3. For total of perhaps five hours. With good results
and methodicalness. Cleaning both the front and back up to the
bicuspids. Basically finishing off the upper right molars
within reason for now. With it okay to leave them alone until
the gums have recovered. With gums largely recovered
now. Approximately a week later. So the right upper side
is okay for now.
Went back to clean the back of tooth 14 on Sunday, July 2. The
reasoning was that part of its swelling was likely due to ongoing
plaque combined with trauma. Whereby failed removal of plaque
plus soreness exacerbated the condition. With logic to remove
as much plaque is possible. With results that the back of the
tooth was very filthy. So... tooth 14 was filthy both front
and back. Now it is reasonable. Meanwhile the rest of
the upper left side was gone over opportunistically. With it
somewhat clear that both tooth 15 and 16 needed some methodical
effort. With discovery on tooth 16.
GUM ABSCESS
New development -- Tooth #16 was filthy. Methodically tried to
smooth out basic area under the gum. With Gracy's. Then
with sickle scalers. Leading to a gradual smoothing out of the
surface. With an ongoing deliverance of plaque and assorted
blobs. With appearances that there was a ledge that blocked
the inner gum. Once the ledge was broken I thought I was
done. Working on the one tooth from 8:30 p.m. until 1
a.m.. Or 4 1/2 hours. With significant amounts of time
spent trying to clear out the area at the front of the tooth.
Finding it difficult to get a curette across. Rather than up
and down. With the resulting release of dozens upon dozens of
blobs. Over a period of time of possibly around two hours that
I was working the front of the tooth.
GUM ABSCESS
The new development was that there appeared to be a very deep pocket
going deep into the front of tooth 16. With ongoing
roughness. With activity with the curette eventually leading
to very large blobs. Becoming released in quantities of
anywhere from two to five large blobs at a time. For an
additional two hours. With total blobs into the dozens.
In retrospect I would guess there must have been 50 or more
blobs. Dozens upon dozens.. Additional new development
was that the depth of the pocket reached the split in the root of
the tooth. Which is very very bad. But otherwise it was
good to clear out tooth 16.
New gum cut -- tooth 15. Probably cut it last night.
Noticed a strange sensation while using the water pick today.
Noticed problem when I decided to give the front of tooth 15 a
peremptory treatment. With result that I cleaned up the front of
tooth 15 to a reasonable degree. With identification of a
ledge on tooth 15 too. In addition to previously identified
ledge on tooth 14. With the idea now to give this entire area
approximately 2 weeks to recover. So... now on moratorium for
at least a week. Per cut gum. With additional policy
being 100% cleanliness almost all of the time.
Summary. Can largely consider the upper left side to be
completed. For now. Have gone over just about all of the
molars in a reasonably methodical way. With the result that
three out of six front and back surfaces were transformed from
complete filth to at least a reasonable start. Additional idea
that all three molars are at least rudimentarily cleaned. With
ledges on the front of 14 and 15. Which can wait for
now. Until everything has had a chance to recover.
Recovery and moratorium for top teeth. My presumption is that
the gums will have an opportunity to make reasonable progress now
that a good portion of the plaque has been removed. With the
realization that the overall trauma has been high. Meaning
that the recovery is likely to be slow. Where the most serious
pocket on the right side is still sore after a week. But the
rest seems relatively well recovered. So... this suggests...
that a full two weeks is called for before even touching a scaler to
the top teeth. Until July 22.
Finalizing bottom teeth -- plus top front teeth? Meanwhile I could
work the bottom teeth. Since presumably they could use a
treatment too. But that the treatment should be methodical and
very very slow. Meaning to spend several hours at it.
Even if it seems I am accomplishing nothing. Logic is that the
bottom teeth should get two treatments too. But that the
likely result is that a fairly reasonably high degree of health will
be achieved. But not so for the top teeth. Not for a
long time. If ever.
Upper teeth -- second round with Gracy's. Strategy is to scale
the teeth again. After they have had an opportunity to recover
sufficiently. Two weeks minimum. Maybe three
weeks. Maybe a month. With it obvious that there are
ledges that I never got to. That are very difficult and
obstructive. With it apparent that the next attempt is likely
to lead to significant amounts of trauma too. But less trauma
then created so far.
Big problem is the swelling. But here my reliance is largely
on the mantra. Remove the plaque and tartar. This will
lead to a restoration of health. Meaning that if the
pathological condition has been largely surmounted that health will
become more present. This should reduce the swelling.
Causing the gums to become more normal looking. So... the
turnaround time is going to be towards the end of July. At
that point I will be ready to see a periodontist. To get a
full cleaning. Hopefully by then I will have had the
opportunity to make some money too. Ideally July be at least a
wash. Including periodontal.
Policies. Let cut gum heal. For one week. No candy
at all. Keep teeth clean. With food exposure only during
meal times. Possibly no coffee? With one week to cover
basic trauma to tooth 16.
= = =
Friday, July 7, 2006 -
Summary of current situation. Scaled front of tooth 14 two
weeks ago. Scaled teeth 1-3 approximately 1 week ago.
With back of tooth 14 five days ago. With major work on tooth
16 two days ago. Can consider recovery time reaching a close
once the cut on tooth 15 is healed and the soreness goes away.
Or in about a week. Regarding the disease situation recovery
time is measured in much larger quantities of time. But two
days is hardly any time passed. More like a month makes sense
regarding the gums getting reasonable amounts of time to heal.
Plans for second general treatment of upper left side. Can
think in terms of roughly July 21 for moratorium on any work on the
uppers. Though could cheat on the right hand side. For
July 14 on the lowers. For a general once over. Then for
a second general treatment on the left-hand side. Thinking
here is that current level of hygiene is estimated at say 75%.
With obvious ledges still there. Very delicately located in
close proximity with my swollen gums. Where reduction of the
swelling level is needed before any reasonable additional
treatment. Additionally where the ledges are right next to
attached gums. Additionally where plaque is located in close
proximity with edges of pockets. Hence there is a certain risk
of additional damage.
Gangbusters philosophy. Additionally where prior efforts were
largely halted once large blocks of filth were removed.
Presumably using some type of 80% rule. Meaning 20% of the
filth is still there. Additionally applying gangbusters
philosophy. Meaning that the available plaque and available
calculus will tend to find and attract each other. Making them
more accessible to shake down once they have had reasonable amounts
of time to work their strategy. Essentially functioning as an
on going 80% rule. Meaning that the plaque would be reduced to
say 4% of its prior level. Which would presumably tip scale of
health in my favor.
Call for patience and faith. Faith in the healing
process. Sounds reasonable. Like a healing cut.
Can presume a higher level of periodontal health within
approximately a month. Or by the beginning of August.
Additionally can presume an ongoing schedule of cleaning
activity. Schedule. By this meaning to be patient.
Eventually my gums won't be sore anymore. Once this happens I
can go for a second cleaning. As example my schedule did not
reach tooth 16 until two days ago. Even though its degree of
filth was completely amazing. Cleaning out dozens upon dozens
of pieces of bloody crud. Which was poisoning the tooth.
Up until two days ago...
So... with severe plaque poisoning on tooth 16 up until a few days
ago can take a long view. Thinking that it might take two
weeks or more of relief just for the gum to get the of a vacation
from the severe stress it has been undergoing for the past several
years. Even a month would seem normal to achieve a semblance
of health.
Next steps -- are the bones exposed?. Get the idea that my
bones are exposed. Seems important to do a probe. With
healthy recovered gums. Suggesting about a week. Also
thinking about a bone brushing. With peroxide. But the
original issue will be see if the bones are exposed. If so
then it would seem that providing the bones with treatment is
proper.
Perio brush. This also seems like a logical next step.
Imagining the tufts going underneath the gums.
= = =
Tuesday, July 11, 2006 -- 9 p.m.
Tooth #12. Another disaster. Noticed tooth was loose
several days ago. Just as loose as Tooth 14. Clean the
tooth from approximately 11 p.m. until 3 a.m.. Or around 4
hours. With initial difficulty trying to get around the back
right corner. Then coming across the inside. With
general flow of crud throughout process.
Leading to working out somewhat new strategy based on general sense
of roughness. Which is to go back to a rough area. Then
to work lightly in a very small area. Leading to that area be
coming clean. Thereby functioning somewhat as a fulcrum to
form a wall up against a larger area. Have utilized this
strategy before. But have become more aware of its
opportunities. One of these being an area that seems kind of
clean except for a certain roughness. Results were that on one
of my coming around type sweeps that I retrieved a major amount of
blood and blobs. Looking like a good 10 blobs at once.
Start up again. So... it has been roughly a week since I got
started again with the Gracy's. With general assessment that
gum healing takes approximately 4 to eight weeks.
= = =
Monday, July 17 -- 4:20 a.m.
Tooth 14. Worked around from back inside portion towards the
front. With idea to clear the edge around the divot.
Resulting in discovery of very very deep pocket. With angular
root formation. Which means that it is close to the
furcation. With mother loads of blobs in the pocket.
Also noticed... that tooth 14 does not feel so lose any more.
After approximately 1 month. Additionally tooth 12 does not
feel so lose any more either. After approximately 1 week.
Mother lode Blobs. Tooth 14 had several in deep pockets.
Tooth 12 had at least one. Tooth 16 had one or more. By
mother lode meaning the release of multiple blobs of plaque.
Like 8 or 10 or even more at once. Which is a serious
issue. But also certainly a major improvement to get the blobs
out. With on there about how they managed to protect
themselves from discovery. What happens is that I might go
over the area without any results. Then a second or third
attempt results in the release of massive blobs. So... it is
certainly good to get rid of such large amounts of filth.
Suggesting that there could be additional mother lodes.
= = =
STOP -- Summary 9/5/06 --- Never really got to Round-2.
Finishing up roughly July 15th. Seeing exposed bone.
Deciding to see periodontist instead. Rather than doing
another round. Which would take time to do. Plus which
would swell the gums again. But... since had idea about
Round-2... probably discouraged by both hourglass and by exposed
bone... probably did not have a good sense of completion. But
did have lots and lots of hours. So that must have added up to
something. Apparently deciding that a periodontist could
finish things off. Plus that there were too many loose
unresolved issues. Plus got the basics covered. So a
cursory doctor couldn't really get the upper hand by doing bogus
cursory work.
= = =
Wednesday August 30, 2006 -- Post week gap in diary.
Where largely did not do anything. Including both sweets and
doing no flossing. Figuring some future point. Changing
that strategy to... It is always now. Floss every day.
No sweets.
Missing portions of teeth 14 and 15. Monday evening worked
over tooth 14. Plus other teeth. Including tooth
15. Regarding tooth 15 the idea was to come around from the
back of tooth 15 towards the front on the outside. With sense
of smooth tooth contour as I was coming around the corner....
Got the sense of catching an edge. Then followed up with the
over and down technique. Idea being to dislodge calculus
ledge. Additionally to follow the edge of the pocket along the
perimeter. To try to create a clean environment.
The result was fairly large numbers of little flecks. Several
dozen or more. With almost none being large. With
possible exception of at least one apparent blob. Which
quickly got lost down the sink. Additionally with several
small pieces resembling bodily tissue. Additionally with
several small fluffy pieces. These I tend to take as
calculus. Like some crushed feather encased in mud. But
also considering that broken bone might expand into some type of
white fiber.... But otherwise do not have any reckoning of any
normal item that would look like a crushed feather. Except for
the presumed architecture of plaque. Hence calcified....
But nothing came out resembling large chips. Which it would
seem that a broken piece of tooth would have to look like.
Summary of 14 and 15. Story seems to be repeating
itself. Appearing that I caught some type of edge with the
curette. Then proceeded to either scrape off or break off
significant amounts of tooth. With ambiguity about what might
have happened. Lots of flecks. With no large
pieces. With jagged edges. With definite sense of before
and after. With definite sense of damage caused to the tooth
-- Previously had no awareness of anything resembling a deficit
edge.
-- Afterwards there was definitely a deficit edge. After
catching an edge. Then pulling down. With lots of
flecks. No large pieces. Jagged edge.
-- In both cases there was ambiguity about what the resulting
interior ledge was made of. Whether bone... or tooth... or
calculus. Without difficulty of any defining clear
indication. With some of it appearing to be root. With
some of it appearing to be exposed.
-- in both cases, afterwards there seemed to be exposed bone.
Whether interpreted as root. Or definitely separate from
root. With appearances of a ridge between 15 and 16.
Suggesting that what appears to be a ledge of tooth might in fact be
bone. Additionally suggesting that somehow I managed to
destroy significant amounts of gum tissue. Which may or may
not eventually regenerate.
Summary of 14 and 15.
-- Tooth 15 now, like tooth 14 previously, does not seem normal.
-- For tooth 14 a possible explanation was that I pulled off a
filling. Which would seem to have definitely been there.
From 1989. But there was no filling on tooth 15. So what
could the explanation be there? Especially since the end
results look so similar. It would seem that the cause was
similar too.
-- It does not seem very likely that I can expect any reasonable
answer from the periodontist.
NOTE -- Current thinking on the periodontist is to make a list of
questions. But don't ask any of them. Overriding element
is that a clean mouth will become a healthy mouth regardless of
ancillary work. Additionally that the damage to tooth 14 and
tooth 15 in some regards is not necessarily material.
Evidence and conjectures.
-- My normal curettage with the curette was fairly light. Less
than the periodontist. Less than I imagine the dental
hygienist.
-- The transformation... from a so-called normal contour... to the
deficit contour with jagged edge... seemed to take place quickly.
-- My memory is uncertain. But I should have noticed a jagged
edge at the very least. Even if mixed in with calculus.
-- There is still some ambiguity. Without clear differences in
all cases... between tooth, calculus and bone. With various
areas having various probabilities for each possibility. As
example part of what appears to be root is probably root. But
other parts seem like they might be bone. With some wondering
if some of that might be latent calculus.
-- There appears to be exposed bone. In spite of what the
periodontist says. Or... some bone like substance. Like
a fibroblast or some healing precursor tissue.
-- There seems to be some possibility of long-term damage that I
caused. But largely... regenerative processes would seem to
hold more sway. Suggesting that something bad that I did might
cause a delay. But that can be overcome. Or... that I
might have caused some permanent damage, over and above what a
professional would have caused. Such as the jagged
edges. But... through either regeneration or reconstruction
that this damage can largely be alleviated.
-- The regeneration process seems to be 100%. As sorts.
The bone won't return to normal. But some will come
back. The attachment process won't become normal either.
But it should get close enough. Over a period of several years
the teeth might return to a basic sense of normalcy. In
addition they will be many times more healthy than they were when
they existed in a diseased state. In summary... the area with
periodontal disease has a good opportunity to become reasonably
healthy. Even 100% healthy. Though certainly not
perfect.
-- The objective is 100% cleanliness of the diseased areas. As
much as this is obtainable. Perfunctory efforts are
unacceptable.
Hence... current periodontist is unacceptable. Especially if
he won't answer questions. Or gives smug arrogant insolent
snappy comedic responses instead of answers.
Theory. I caught an edge and broke off pieces of each
tooth. This seems to be the simplest explanation. That I
damaged both teeth with the curettes. With the same
scenario. Even though tooth 14 had a filling. But the
appearances suggest additional destruction.
Pro... Both teeth seemed to have normal contour before hand.
With abnormal contour afterwards. With no prior indications or
memories of abnormal appearance.
Pro... in both cases the deficit and jagged edges appeared to arise
fairly suddenly.
Pro... This appears to be what happened. With similar memories
for both events. Catching an edge. Then bringing around
the curette. Pulling down fairly hard. With a breaking
away of material. Resulting in dozens of bloody colored
flecks. Appearing to be calculus. But which would
instead presumably be shattered cementum. Possibly mixed in
with calculus. With appearances of each being roughly the
same Additionally with lots of blood. Suggesting damage
to the gums.
Pro... Both teeth seem to have jagged edges along the interior
edges. With significant distance. Like the greater part
of two edges. Suggestive of a breaking off process.
Con.... There are considerable missing portions. I
should have seen more than just flecks. I should have seen
broken pieces of tooth. Unless there was a complete
shattering. Which suggests that the material itself was
brittle.
THEORY - The tooth material was necrotic and brittle.
Mixed in with calculus. This is an apologist
explanation. Suggesting that the missing material was bad
material. Or at best not good. Plus not to be fretted
about. Additionally that the problem can largely be
rectified. Or eventually bypassed. With or without
intervention. Or that at least some portion of the problem was
unavoidable. To have either bad cementum or missing
cementum. Rather than as missing perfectly healthy cementum.
Pro... There is some suggestion in the literature of the destruction
of cementum. Presumably underneath the plaque. With the
cementum unable to regenerate itself due to being in a pocket.
With that least some destruction of cementum being obvious.
With or without detailed explanation.
Pro... The material seemed to break off too easily for being
healthy. Possibly some of the calculus embedded itself in the
cementum. Causing an inevitable break if the calculus was to
be removed in any sort of gross fashion.
Pro... this would seem to explain both the amount of flecks and
their smallness. Possibly the broken off portion was largely
calculus.
Con... Explanation is apologist. Hence my preference is
towards less bad happening. Or inevitable bad. Or
excusing me bad.
THEORY - The tooth material was largely scraped away
methodically. Because of multiple passes.
Pro.... I certainly made many passes. Would make sense that
each pass would have removed material. Possibly resulting in a
jagged edge.
Con... In both cases the problem of the deficit in the jagged edges
appeared to arise fairly suddenly. Where a scraping away
process would have taken place more slowly.
Con... The amount of missing material seems fairly large.
Especially since my original touch was fairly light. Only
going after places where the blade caught. With approximately
20 times the normal amount of material missing. Which does not
make sense given a light touch. Even with multiple passes.
SUMMARY THEORY - That the missing material was largely
diseased and brittle. That is why it broke. That it
should get filed and smoothed. That perhaps it won't reattach
so easily. Especially considering the gap caused by the
deficit. That the gum material will have a problem going
around corners.
Additional summary. The entire profession of dentistry has
gotten out of control. With mediocre professionals delivering
mediocre results at huge costs. In addition with deficient
work being presented as professional. Additionally being
charged at a premium rate. Hence creating serious problems for
the consumer. Largely driven by dentists needs to make serious
amounts of dollars per hour. Not just $100 an hour or even
$200 an hour. But more. As much as they can get for the
least amount of work.
With consumers treated arrogantly. With dentists rushing
through procedures like some sort of Mao Mao dance. Cutting
off questions. Acting presumptively. Such as playing
games with the x-rays. Basically the dentists have the
power. Which they hold over the consumers. Essentially
turning teeth into hostages.
= = =
Thursday, August 30, 2006
Damage to 14 and 15. Basically damaged the cementum of both 14
and 15. Should have learned from 14. Caught the edge and
pulled off the cementum. With great force. Repeated this
with 15. Could have come in from the sides. Could have
worked very slowly. Could have ignored problem. Results
are... questions about whether the edge should get filed.
Flossing. Issue is bacteria. If I reduce places where
bacteria can take hold then bacteria will only take hold in the hide
out spots. Like painting a house... or some other widescale
activity... if activity is performed where of available then places
where it is missed can be subject to special activity. As
example... if I floss but miss 75% every day then the 25% that I do
accomplish will eventually add up to a much greater
percentage. Even if the major focus is only on the minor
portion. At the very least at least that one small area will
stay clean. Additionally... the theory seems to obviate the
need for comprehensiveness. As a precursor for activity.
Meaning that I can literally perform a botched job every single
day. Being 100% better than no job at all.
= = =
Sunday, September 3, 2006 -- general summary of gum bone separation
issue.
Bone and gum separation.
-- Infected or not? My guess is it is infected. That TT
might have cut it part way. But that there was a pre-existing
pocket. Which was infected. Which is still infected.
-- Damaged or not? Gross situation caused by infection or TT induced
damage. My best guess is that the situation preexisted..
-- Did TT clean out pocket adequately?
-- Is infection ongoing still? Current issue. Whether or not
there is still significant infection there..... Or whether the
amount of infection is within normal body abilities.
-- Can it reattach? Major issue. Whether the tissue will be
able to reattach itself to the bone. Whether pocket will
become scarred. Resulting in an open pool. Subject to
issues. Similar to the problem with my foot. Where an
open pool of fluid can very easily become infected. With
almost any stimulation at all. Like from some left over random
bacterium.
-- Is area filthy? Should I leave it alone or forget about it.
SUMMARY ANALYSIS - that possibly the situation has reached a state
where my body can get the jump on the situation.
-- Estimation of cleaning. Doing left side before. This
time working around the entire pocket. Assumption of previous
is 60% clean. Assumption of current is 90% clean. Or...
presuming 40% was left behind last time. Presuming that only
10% was left behind this time. With presumption that previous
level of infection did not return to its pre-existing level.
But... that it stayed fairly stagnant. Suggesting that level
of dirtiness was reduced from 100% to 40% to 4%.
Basis evidence... supporting judgment of pocket as a serious
pre-existing issue.
a) proximity to periodontal infection.
b) apparent openness of pocket. Admitting to some cutting
separation of tissue. But suggesting it is not as much as
might be imagined. That pocket did exist.
c) volume of material inside. Looking like... other pocket
material. Which was positively identified as plaque and
calculus. Since there was no other explanation. With
possibility that material could be functional? But
seriously... not likely. Per general accepted understanding of
debridement issues. Additionally with understanding that
suspect tissue is nonvital at best. Especially if it looks
like a blob or a fleck.
SUMMARY OF ACTIVITY ... with prognosis.
-- Previously worked left side. Ignoring right side.
Which was open. This time... I seemed to work the entire
pocket.
-- Worked curette around perimeter. At least two or
three reasonable times.... I am upset that I did not work the
curette around more. Such as two or three additional
times. But realistically I probably worked the curette in the
pocket for a good 15 minutes of actual curetting clock time.
Perhaps even more.
-- Could have worked curette more. Suggesting that my level of
completion was incomplete. Suggesting that significant amounts
of bacteria are still in there. But... sounds like a bad idea
to go in there again.
-- Thinking that I could have worked the interdental brush in the
separation. Or... that I might still work the edge.
SUMMARY OF STRATEGY - More cleaning? Periodontist or dentist
would likely call this crazy. Realistically... I did a fairly
reasonable job of cleaning out infectious crud. With issue of
what happens to infectious crud. Does it get reabsorbed?
Or get turned into something innocuous?
= = =
Sunday, September 3, 2006 -- consultation with dentist.
Saturday dental consultation. Dr. L was a true jerk.
Asking me why I was there. Presumably because a simple
consultation without additional work would be wasting his
afternoon. Since he is there to make some money. Not to
rap. Which is obviously an overstatement. But still...
he was a jerk. When I said that I was going to see the
periodontist in 10 days he said WTF. What sort of angle are
you running? Trying to play off one doctor against another
doctor? You POS. What is wrong with periodontist.
Cursory, perfunctory, arrogant, presumptive. Why can't you ask
him questions? He doesn't want to answer your questions?
Grow up. Grow some balls. Grow some backbone. Get
another periodontist if you don't like him. But don't go
around asking dentists what to do about severe periodontal disease.
-- TT said that the periodontist took all of 15 minutes scale and
root plane my teeth.
-- TT said that the periodontist discounted and denied any
exclamations from me that I had exposed bone.
-- Dentist said that periodontist is well respected. That I
should listen to what he says. That I should STFU.
Dentist said...
-- TT has severe periodontal disease. About to lose three
teeth. Loss of membranes, supporting material and bone.
Implying... that TT caused much of the damage. Presumably by
plowing through supporting tissue. Later... discounting TT's
confession about damaging two teeth. Summarizing with
statement... that most of the damage that a patient might cause by
trying to clean their teeth will heal itself within several
days. Additional summary... the teeth might be terminal.
But not necessarily right away. Their ultimate prognosis
sounds hopeless. But presumably the day of reckoning can be
put off for a significant amount of time.
-- Separation won't heal. Don't call it a pocket either.
In particular... TT likely caused the damage. Which is a
judgment. Which is an assessment of reality. With issue
being... was the pocket infected with periodontal disease? Did
the periodontal disease get into the geography between the bone and
the gum. Then run wild. Hard to say how much agreement I
got or didn't get. ... With my opinion that the periodontal disease
created a gum abscess.
-- Damage was caused by the underlying condition. Meaning that
the level of damage that exists now also existed in April or
May. That there was no state of non-damage that now exists as
damage. The damage now existed then. TT may have fussed
with the problem. But... TT did not cause the damage that is
there. Any damage caused by TT goes through an ongoing healing
process. Damage caused by TT can be summarized as... sore
gums.
-- The teeth will never be normal. Hello? Hello?
Dentist is stating the obvious. Thank you.
= = =
Sunday, September 3, 2006 -- other stuff.
Periodontal cleanliness issue. There are various watchwords
and expressions. Such as that... the most important piece of
calculus that you remove is the very last piece.
Realistically... through my various efforts... I have removed highly
significant amounts of calculus. Additionally... with each
additional effort removing more and more. Finalizing with
basic sense that the affected teeth are fairly clean. Like 99%
cleaner than they were. That to say 5% left of the original
would be a gross exaggeration. That to say 1% is left sounds
like a reasonable assessment.
Additionally... is the entire concept of just how filthy those teeth
were. Where I spent hours upon hours releasing crud.
Purchasing the Gracy curettes. Arriving 6/21/06.
Starting off on tooth 14. Writing... with lots and lots of
plaque and tartar... amazing how much crud I removed. With cut
on gum. Plus damaged tooth... resulting in a moratorium.
Starting up again on 6/27/06. Then doing the right side
only. Starting again on the left side on 7/2/06. On
tooth 14. Then 7/5/06. Overall quadrant six hours.
Then 7/6/06. Tooth 15. Then 7/10/06 for tooth
12. Then 7/15/06. Overall quadrant five hours.
That was one month before the periodontist cleaned the area.. . Or
approximately 17 days before seeing the periodontist for the first
time.
Transitioning from a basic state of filth two months ago... to
somewhat clean six weeks ago... to perio clean three weeks ago... to
touchup clean with pocket four days ago. Thereby transitioning
from a state of filth then, to a state of basic cleanliness now.
With the basic philosophy that cleanliness can and will return my
teeth to a state of basic health. Even though the perio
condition is obviously permanent. Can imagine a future time...
perhaps a month from now... perhaps six months from now... when the
pockets won't be particularly deep. The pain will be
gone. Presumably the bone will be back inside of the
gum. Perhaps there will be issues of monitoring the gum.
But what is so difficult about that? Perhaps there might be
issues of the gum going episodic. But that can be dealt with
when the time comes. Additionally I might wonder about the
broken cementum ledges. But conceivably they will be back
underneath the gum line. I might wonder about bogus
dentists. But my dentist won't be one of the bogus ones.
Looking through the Internet there is reasonable belief that
calculus free gums are a good start. Perhaps not the end all
say all. Additionally not a tragedy if not achieved. But
certainly a good idea. Additionally... it sounds like a major
surgery issue is so that the periodontist can see the gums.
Saving significant hours by cutting open the gums. For
convenience.
I spent something like 24 hours with the Explorer, then another 24
hours with the Gracy scalers. Or a total of 48 hours cleaning
my teeth. With most of those hours focused on the four bad
teeth. With a very typical episode at three or four hours on a
single tooth. Which would add up to 16 hours straight
forward. Plus say another eight hours for generic and
otherwise.
SUMMARY -- my teeth should be quite clean by this time.
Reasonably so for positive therapeutic results. Significantly
better than I might have reasonably expected from the perio
doctor. Additionally... my teeth are probably cleaner than
just about anybody's. In an situation. Since they would
have not gotten as much time. Additionally since I touched up
the doctors work.
SUMMARY -- by spending so much time cleaning my teeth... 48 hours...
reasonably I accomplished the of a fairly high-end SRP.
Additionally I explored many of the pockets in significant
depth. As said for up to several hours per tooth. As
example... thinking about the back inside portion of tooth 14.
Where there was a nasty plaque pocket. With this as somehow to
what a surgeon might find. Which in my case was discovered
through deep exploration. Which a normal dental hygienist
might have overlooked. Since... it was not obvious right
away. Anyway... hoping my teeth are clean! If so then I
have a reasonable basis for the future.
Additionally... obviously... is the issue of so-called secret
pockets. With differential analysis. One theory looking
at them like hidden landmines. Another theory looking at them
like they can be bypassed... if they are not very material.
The issue of periodontal surgery... if there is bone there... then
how can cutting away the gum do anything? It would seem that
the bone would still be there regardless of whether gum is cut
away. Meaning two things. One... that the cutting of the
gums serves no purpose except to make it easier for the
periodontist. Two... that a patient effort with the curettes
is just as good as periodontal surgery. Or almost as
good. Again... saying that 24 hours of Gracy's starts to add
up. When compared with say four hours of strenuous debridement
on a single quadrant. If you could find anybody that would
actually do that. Without cutting corners... as would be
expected.
With the separate issue of the gum separation. But...
idyllically... perhaps I addressed the issue. With the right
side cleaning. Perhaps my effort was reasonable. Getting
the upper hand. Perhaps a little brushing along the edge will
help. Along with 100% cleanliness. Perhaps including
some irrigation. Perhaps requiring grand patience.
Perhaps requiring isolation. As in... if everything else gets
dealt with except for that then that problem is still left.
Additionally... with separate issue of broken cementum.
Whether it needs filing. Whether it can be ignored.
With the bottom line that I am attempting to transition myself from
a state of negative health into a state of positive health.
Where this effort will naturally take place over a period of several
months. If I give it a chance. Meanwhile... that the
situation sucks. That my previous dentist was a quack.
That the perio guy is close to being a quack. But... within
several months I should have reduced pockets and other examples of
perio health. Plus I might not be sore
Dental hygiene issues. Plus other issues. Sounds like I
should follow some basic rules...
-- No sugar. This includes candy, white bread, and any type of
pastry. Idea is to starve the dental plaque.
-- Post meal irrigation. Idea being to not leave any food.
-- 100% cleanliness. Idea is that I eat then clean my
teeth. So there is hardly much time when my teeth are exposed
to food.
-- Floss. Daily. Religiously.
-- Interdental wooden cleaners. Idea being to eliminate the
slime layer. Give the teeth a chance to reattach. Per
theory about reattachment.
-- Interdental brushes. Idea being to address the exposed bone
issue.
-- Review of bone issue on right side. Was it there before?...
Yes.... Definitely?... Quite so. Close
enough. There was definitely something there. If now
healed.
-- Consideration of irrigation issue. Or metameucal issue.
-- Odontology Issue -- filing broken cementum.
Knox gelatin regeneration theory. Sounds like... the idea
would be to create so-called symbiosis activity times of some
intermediate time. Theory being that I might not brush my
teeth for a while. Additional theory being that some proximity
substance will likely become absorbed. Such as
chemicals. So why not vitamins? With the presumption
that they do get absorbed. But just might not do
anything. But... as long as they are not dangerous they should
not cause any harm either.
So... idea would be to get a general grip on the antibacterial
portion of the disease. This would seem to follow a general
linear progression. Starting with elimination of calculus and
supporting geography. Obviously suggesting issues with
pockets. But... dental floss... wooden interdental devices...
etc. can deal with these. With the apparent idea that there is
something about metal that pisses off dentists. Just as others
get pissed off about anything under the gum line. Saving the
critical portion for their own particular specialty. Letting
the amateurs do what is nonessential. But obviously creating a
problem too.
All of this taking place in super slow motion. Leading to some
essential task level. But basically... I just did the touchup
perio. I just isolated the tooth 16 bone issue. Which is
still unresolved. Suggesting... interdental... whatever.
Leading to... the settling in of the cleanliness and hygiene.
With daily flossing. With soaking in the tea oil. With
possible use of the syringe. Or other mechanism for delivering
the tea oil. With idea being to starve the bacteria.
Though obviously they can recover as soon as they get some
food. But in the meantime the longer my body has to get the
upper hand the better. This to include some healing process
too.. Which will help in getting the upper hand.
Presumably also combined with the bacteria putting out its message,
or toxins, at a low enough degree to be dealt with. Back to
street gang.
Additionally... with the issues of the periodontal gum bone
pocket. Also including toxin issues. Presuming... that
once the area calms down slightly that some gentle irrigation will
not be such a bad idea. Additionally possibly it could be
combined with the water pick. Perhaps... with just enough
hydrogen peroxide to sterilize the water. Followed up with a
saline. Or perhaps... to waste an entire saline on a single
treatment. Previously... can practice with the water pick and
the syringe. See if I can get it to work.
Then... try to go deep into the pocket and use up an entire bottle
of the saline. What could be wrong with that? At worst
it might wash away some toxins. Again with the entire
objective being to get the upper hand. Soon enough leading to
pressure therapy on the dead space. Once things are calm down.
So to summarize...
-- Diet therapy as described. No sugar. Mouth 100%
clean. Per obvious. Followed up by cleanliness
routines. Floss, wash, brush, etc.
-- Waiting out the soreness. Which previously took a long
time. Still sore previously after eight days. Presumably
okay by 14 days. Or Friday 9/15/06.
-- Wait out the perio doctor. Delay a week. Possibly
delay two weeks. Tell Michelle I want to impress him with my
flossing. Additionally, by then the teeth might be good enough
for a quick filing. While you're at it doctor... what you
say.... Meanwhile... my teeth get better and better.
Thanks to positive hygiene. Under these circumstances it
sounds like my best interests are applied by a delay in the
appointment. Fuck him.
-- Impress the perio doctor with my flossing. Plus my use of
the interdental. Reducing the slime layer.
-- Consider some type of Knox gelatin therapy. Check out their
product line. Plain gelatin? Normal saline?
Electrolyte?
-- Floss with the tea oil. Figure about a week or so of
antibacterial therapy.
-- Ponder the apparent gum abscess. With presumption that it
pre-existed. With possible additional gum abscess? What
about irrigation??? Finished.
= = =
Thursday, September 7, 2006 -- 12:11 p.m.
INDERDENTAL BRUSH - Deep pockets. There are several deep
pockets that can be accessed with the interdental brush. Their
locations are fairly well-known. On the tooth map.
Largely they seem to be roughly the same as they were before.
Realistically they can be cleaned with the interdental
cleaners. There are deep pockets in on each side of each of
the teeth. In between the teeth. Realistically they
might be 10 mm deep. First step was to brush out the
pockets. In several of the pockets I seem to get significant
amounts of plaque on the brush. Along with blood. Second
round I put several drops of melaleuca on the brush. When I
was all done I got numbness on my lips. Obviously an effect of
the melaleuca. But... almost a half-hour later the symptoms
seem to be going away.
DEEP POCKETS - Obviously a serious issue. Thinking is that
today's brushing plus the melaleuca is a step in the right
direction. Quite likely my coverage was only partial.
Quite realistically I will soon get quite good at brushing out those
pockets. Don't know what a good schedule might be. My
guess is 48 hours. In order to give the gum tissue time to
rest. Additionally there are issues of
comprehensiveness. But I haven't done anything so far.
Just today. With the interdental brushes coming on as the
obvious solution. Additionally the melaleuca treatment should
have a positive affect.
SUMMARY -- presumably got rid of a reasonable percentage of
what ever plaque was there. Additionally the melaleuca should
either kill or knock additional plaque out of commission. Idea
will be to come back in a day or two to clean out the area
again. Gradually expanding my territory as I learn the pockets
better. Presumably next round will be more
comprehensive. That will help to set up pocket closure.
Additionally... I was hardly even aware of these pockets
recently. Also... none of these pockets has been cleaned
out. Nor did I have a system until I got the idea of using the
interdental brush.
Biogel. Sounds like... I could get a glass jar. Add
water. Possibly electrolyte. Possibly boiled down
electrolyte. Or salt solution. Making a salve to apply
to the affected areas. Could use the sulcus is brush.
With the idea that any gelatin realistically is not going to not
dissolve. Meaning that... for topical use I could likely use a
highly concentrated mixture. Additionally... I can use the
thermometer to experiment with the viscosity. With the idea
that I might cover over a periodontal area for a few days at a
time. In particular that I would cover up the bony area on
tooth 14. To give it a chance to get ahead. Then... I
could time it to see how long it lasts.
Progressive strategy. Delivery of biogel. Basic idea is
for the gum tissue to absorb the gelatin. Presumably then
turning that into bone. Realistically a nutrition strategy
probably makes more sense. Using the stuff that I
bought. That I have not really tried out yet. But
realistically the bone rebuilding process is long-term.
Additionally... it sounds somewhat far-fetched that the body would
take up college and out of the environment rather than
nutritionally. But you never know. In the meantime the
so-called biogel can function as a sort of bandage. Presumably
with some type of relative the short life expectancy. So it
doesn't get stuck. Meanwhile there might be some absorb and
see that won't hurt. Though likely it sounds like it would go
into the veins? But... if other items progress than presumably
the biogel will too. Otherwise I would not have to be numbing
effect from the melaleuca.
Progressive strategy. A rough order or lineup.
-- tooth 29 recovery from gum damage.
-- teeth 29 through 32. Clean in between teeth.
-- teeth 16 through 32. General cleaning. Idea here is
to neutralize the gum disease throughout the mouth.
Additionally to reducing the bacteriological load.
-- teeth 14 through 16. Interdental brush the deep
pockets. Idea here is to create a state of basic hygiene.
-- teeth 14 through 16. Exposed bone. Intermittent
pressure on the area. Using gauze pad. To try to eliminate
dead space.
-- Problem -- exposed bone. Thinking biogel. Like an
ointment. That will last two days
= = =
Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Dental situation. I saw the periodontist shortly before I
started working on computer. Around three weeks ago. He
said the disease seems to be in remission. I only flossed a
few times over the next two weeks. Then I started to use the
wooden interdental cleaners to remove the plaque. Especially
on tooth 2 and 3. Plus the problem area between tooth 14 and
15. The plaque looked white and somewhat mediciny.
Leading me to identify this as a problem area.
So... I have cleaned out three problem areas over the past two
weeks. First the plaque between tooth 14 and 15. Cleaned
out with the brush picks. Spending an hour or two.
Basically making that area clean and hygienic.
Second problem area I cleaned was in front of tooth 14. Third
problem area is the front of tooth 2. Think of the cleaning
procedures as a form of capital improvement on my teeth. Since
each of these areas was heavily infiltrated. Also bringing up
the principle of rest. Not to be touched for several
weeks. As was clear from my initial cleanings.
Additionally I had a chance to look at the open gum on tooth
2. Which I have issues about how it got started. Whether
I ripped it open with the curette. Or whether it was
preexistant. With its degree of filth suggesting it was
preexistant. With its bloody flecks and blobs resembling
infiltration from calculus and plaque. As stated a commonsense
explanation is that the area was previously abscess. This is
because the area was open. This also sugggests that the
abscess on tooth 16 preexisted too.
Both of these problems suggest that the periodontal disease was
quite severe. This should be obvious from the amount of bone
loss. It should also be obvious from the depth of the
pockets. Which is that the disease is an ongoing infection
Realistically it seems that periodontal disease can be divided into
several categories of consideration. One category is actively
destructive. A second category would be passively destructive
a third category would be at a tipping point between being stable
and passively destructive or a tipping point between being stable or
passively healing.
= = =
Sunday, October 22, 2006 -- general update.
Since September I have cleaned out several areas...
-- tooth 16. Abscess. Curette. Irrigate.
-- tooth 2. Abscess. Curette. Irrigate.
10/28/06 -- target gum boil. With reversed sickle
strategy. With two sessions. With second session mother
lode.
-- tooth 14 and 15. Pockets in between. Used brush pics
to remove plaque in pockets.
-- tooth 14. Front. Major plaque, calculus and
pocket. Cleaned out area.
-- tooth 29. Gum laceration. Used brush pics to remove
significant plaque.
-- tooth 2. Front. Major plaque, calculus and
pocket. Cleaned out area.
11/2/06 -- brush pick him. 2/3 and 15/16.
-- tooth 3. Back. Cleaned out major debris area.
-- tooth 15. Significant debris and calculus in broken area.
SUMMARY -- Activity is like some search and destroy mission.
Discovery and isolating areas of calculus and plaque. Cleaning
them out. Hopefully setting the stage for healing. As
example... the front of tooth 14. With sense that this area
could return to reasonable health. As second example the front
of tooth 2. With major calculus and plaque debris pocket
cleared out area now should have potential to heal. This area
resembles the area between tooth 14 and tooth 15. Not quite so
damaged. But also bordering on the abscess on tooth 2.
Additionally...
-- See what looks like a crack on the inside of tooth 3.
-- Feel what feels like a small pimple in the outside gum above
tooth 2. GUM BOIL.
-- Apparent deficit in inside gum above tooth 15 and 16.
11/16/06 -- front of tooth 3. With furcation!. Trashing
gum. Surgical rest.
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END -- GO TO DENTAL ACTIVITY DIARY #2
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Dental Activity Diary #2
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Wednesday, October 25, 2006
See perio doctor. Saw Dr. G yesterday. He was attentive
and polite. Figure we spoke for around 20 minutes. His
analysis. I have periodontal disease. Next step is
scaling and root planing. Which makes sense regardless.
Since it will be three months since Dr. S scaled the teeth.
Dr. G wondered how I found him. The long explanation was
through a site called BOST. Which explained how amelogenin
promotes regeneration. Which led to amelogenin and Straumann.
Dr. G sent is scaling and root planing takes about an hour.
For full mouth. I made a statement largely leading to calculus
as the enemy. Since it harbors plaque. That it sits
deep. With my experience that the pockets go on and on in
depth. Would need a submarine to find all the calculus.
But that is what you have to do. Anything less is an
excuse. With a certain incredulousness that it can be done in
an hour. Conservatively imagining at least two hours. Or
four hours. Or one hour per quadrant. Not 15 minutes per
quadrant. Wondering how that could ever lead to getting to the
depth of the calculus.
Space between tooth 14 and 15. Worked on cleaning that
area on Tuesday evening. October 23. After seeing Dr.
G. Result was discovering that the area was quite
filthy. Taking several hours in the early morning.
Result was traumatizing the gum. Which will presumably take at
least two weeks to at least part way normalize. Conceivably it
could take longer. But the general idea is that gum tissue has
read generating capabilities. If given the chance.
But... it might be that there isn't anything skin like to function
as coverage. In which case I could be in trouble. Since
there won't be anything to provide the actual coverage without
serious help.
NOTE -- 2/15/07 -- Likelihood that gum trauma causeD the bone to get
resorbed.
Gelatin bandage. Looking like... this might be a good
application for the gelatin bandage. If I can get it to
work. Idea would be to create a plug. Realistically I
could jam something in there. Realistically it couldn't last
more than a couple of days maximum. Meanwhile... if plaque is
growing underneath it a few days would not make that much of the
difference. So this is a project I can work on within the next
day or so.
Precleaning the teeth. Additionally... is the idea that one
hour of scaling and root planing is not very much. So it seems
like it would be a good idea to try to get my teeth as clean as I
can in advance. Thinking that the brush picks are a good
strategy. Thinking that all of those loose flecks are
representative of calculus. Idea to get a pre-cleaning
approximately 2 weeks in advance the scaling and root planing.
Idea to improve upon the 100% hygiene policy. With the idea
that a closing of time approximately 2 months of perfect cleanliness
and hygiene will result in a basic transformation. From
disease to health. Though the damage will obviously
remain. With some expectation of bone recovery. Plus
some gum recovery. Plus possibilities of regeneration.
Sorry about my mistake. With the coffee and sugar.
Chocolate. Ice cream. Dr. Z. Not getting my teeth
cleaned often enough. But once a year. The
cigarettes. All resulting in the destruction of my dental
health for my upper molars. Additionally very sorry for my
thoughts against flossing. Imagining that I could lose bone
slowly.
= = =
Sunday, October 29, 2006 -- 5:06 a.m.. Post midnight madness
on my gum gum abscesses per tooth 1 to 3.
Midnight madness. Cleaned the gum abscesses on teeth 1 through
3 starting at approximately 1 a.m.. Going on until 6 a.m.
old-time. Or roughly 5 hours. Hard to remember exactly
what I accomplished. Largely using the sickles scaler.
Also using the 11/12 Gracy. In both cases shifting
applications. Getting a fairly consistent amount of blobs and
flecks. Representing a moderately dirty environment.
With specific pockets of crud.
Blobs and flecks. Recall running the scaler along the bone and
getting moderate débridement and blood. Since I did this are
several hours the total volume was certainly significant. Also
recall several areas along the inside of the neo-sulcus that
resulted in the liberation of pockets of debris. Per prior
experience. Where some type of angle with the tool results in
liberating crud that did not seem to exist until its
discovery. Leading to... trying to identify the specific
location of the gum boil. Including running the tool
backwards. From front to back.
Gum boil. I did not have much success finding the gum
boil. Until I turned the tool backwards. At that point I
discovered what seemed like small sock shaped pocket. When I
reached it with the sickle scaler lots and lots crud came out.
Quite significant volumes. to previous discoveries of crud
pockets. With lots and lots of blood. Dark blood.
Dark blobs. Multiple flecks. With resulting spit also
containing large blobs. Bleeding fairly intensively for
several minutes. Finally with the cleanup along the gum line
resulting in a large set of crud too. So... I would say that
there was an initial set of crud. Identifying the
target. Then at least two mother loads. Then at least
two follow up loads. Finalizing with a gum line load.
So... sounds like there were a good five sets of crud.
Path to hygiene. Right now the bump seems to have
disappeared. Which basically seems to be to identify the
procedure as successful. A definite improvement to get rid of
all that crud. Realistically I should compress it. To
avoid the possibility of dead space. But it sounds like the
gum boil might reasonably go away. Additionally... based on my
general experience, it seems that an initial cleaning sets the stage
for hygiene. But cannot get very far. Because the
overall environment is just too unhealthy. Even in huge
amounts of bacteria are removed there is always enough still there
to recolonize. Especially with the defenses basically wiped
out.
The first cleaning was a month ago. Presumably my gums got a
break. Additionally some of crud that I just got to are
remnants from the first cleaning. Using the so-called 90%
rule. Or 80% rule. With this second cleaning
representing an opportunity to remove much of the residue from the
first cleaning. Additionally applying the hang out and
conglomeration beacon type concept. Whereby plaque and
calculus that was left over become a beacon. Whereby so-called
invisible calculus and plaque on the first round become more present
as time passes by. So a month later what is left over becomes
ready to get taken out and removed.
So... sounds like reasonable progress on the gum. Additionally
sounds like the open gum line was a product the periodontal
disease. Since I certainly did not care open the gum line
along virtually its entire length.
= = =
Monday, October 30, 2006
Gum abscess revisited. Was not completely happy with the
results from using the sickle backwards on the gum boil. Got
the idea I went into the gum boil hole. Moved the sickle up
and down. But that I did not do a comprehensive sweep.
Or was incomplete. I was reluctant to go back. But just
did. Doing a sweep from the front to the back. To
include the gum boil hole. Additionally trying to be
comprehensive in my coverage. Going in at multi-angles.
With up down and backward movement. Reasonably confident that
I covered most of the area.
Results were a major dislodgement. With fairly gigantic
blob. That reduced to some type of membranous formation.
Imagining it as some type of bacteriological construct that then
commandeered a large blood blob. Followed up by two large
blobs that came out in my spit. Along with a normal number of
attendant sized blobs. At least five or six. Also
including flecks. With the overall assessment of this being
another mother lode.
When I went back for a follow-up sweep the results were fairly
clean. Doing a reasonable repeat of my first attempt.
With significant pain. As previously. Doing roughly 2
follow up sweeps. With good satisfaction that the attempt was
worth it. That my previous activity was incomplete.
Cleaning out a fairly filthy hole. But leaving significant
residue. With this attempt reasonably completing the job.
Bleeding as indicator. Additionally with the sweep yesterday
the area continue to bleed when I was done. This sounds
indicative of incompleteness and continued filth. Sounds like
when an area becomes clean it will stop bleeding. Almost
instantaneously. Even if there was a lot of prior bleeding.
Summary. Certainly the area is significantly cleaner than it
was before. Which is monumentally cleaner than it was before
that. With serious amounts of mother lode material being
released both times. With current assessment that there is no
more mother lode there. If I didn't get it the first time I
certainly got it the second time.
With one caveat being that the sickle that I used only had a certain
amount of depth. I pushed it in as far as it would go. I
did not want to use the longer sickle. Because the shank does
not have an angle. With my judgment being that I used all the
angle I could with the first sickle. That there is nothing to
spare. So it is not a good idea to try to use the longer
sickle. But to be satisfied with what I was able to
accomplish. Which is quite nasty. Cleaning my bones.
= = =
Tuesday, October 31, 2006
Gum flap. Brand-new problem. Cleaning the area between
tooth 3 and 4. The gum flaps open. Like it did with the
gum between 29 and 30. Somehow it got cut through.
Likely when I was confused about which to that was working on.
Tried to clean up the area. But my tools are dull. The
9/10. Both of them. I suppose I could have rummaged
through the other tools. But I imagine trying to get a sharp
tool. Then to work on the area while it is fresh. But
not for very long. Quickly. Then go away. Let it
rest. Idea that it is okay to interfere with fresh
surgery. But not once it is a day old or so.
Sharpening tools. Presumably they have been getting dull for
quite some time. Though it seems that they have been working
acceptably. Or that I have been able to switch tools to use
fresh ones. But now it looks like I should sharpen my
tools. The hygienist textbook that just arrived has
instructions. There are probably instructions on the Web too.
= = =
Thursday November 30, 2006 - Post scaling and root planing -- Major
cleaning session.
Scaling and root planing. Had my appointment on Tuesday for
scaling and root planing. Hygienist was interested that I used
the dental tools. I told her I liked the Gracy 11/12 for the
fronts. Gracy 13/14 for the backs. Plus Gracy 9/10
for general use. Liking the angle. Plus also liking the
sickle. Even though I know it's dangerous. The hygienist
said she likes the sickle too. So we have something in
common. Like breakfast at Tiffany's.
Value of procedure. The session took about 45 minutes.
The hygienist said to give the area surgical rest until I came
back. Of Previously I told her I understood the concept
of surgical rest. The hygienist assured me that she cleaned
out the area well. $450 for a cleaning. Presuming the
normal cost of a cleaning at roughly $100. Suggesting an
advanced cleaning might be worth $200. Suggesting a maximum
ripoff of roughly $250. But I am also getting a follow-up
session. Presumably worth $100.
In addition the entire procedure sets up so-called clean mode.
Meaning that... all of the things I did in the past were done to
teeth that were filthy. Where all my work made them less
filthy. But where there were lots and lots of nasty
surprises. That remained when I was done. Such as the
gum boil. On October 30. One month ago today....
Additionally... much of the work I did was up against a basically
filthy environment. So that after I cleaned out a particular
area it was still filthy. As demonstrated by me going back
there, some time later, and discovering more filth. Or
continuing the cleaning process for a while with an ongoing stream
of filth. Where what was left becomes the seed for the future
continuation of the disease.
Concept of perfect cleanliness. So... if ongoing activity
simply takes a higher level of filth to a lower level of filth then
the disease can continue. But... the idea is that it
progresses from a lower level. Which could be imagined as a
leak. Or noise. Where additional sessions reduce the
level of filth to even less filth. Ultimately creating the
present opportunity.
Opportunity to create perfect cleaning. Idea being to follow
up on the scaling and root planing with the ongoing present
follow-up cleaning. Sweeping out areas of plaque and calculus
that got missed. Going after areas of burnished
calculus. One spot at a time. Per pendulum
technique. Resulting in the liberation of blobs. Quite
nice. Plus systematic exploration. Which I have not
quite yet completed. To be followed up by the Clorox
wash. To be followed up by surgical rest. For the next
several weeks.
Furcations not cleaned. When I got home I checked out the
furcation on tooth three. I discovered it was fairly
filthy. Meanwhile I figured out how to reverse 13/14 to get
the other side of the furcation. Basic concept being to
reverse the angle of the blade to get the obverse side.
Presumably I am not quite done with the furcations....
Other areas also filthy. Following up with other areas I
continued to find calculus. Meanwhile I figured out fairly
reasonable technique to get burnished calculus. Which is to
get an edge of the dental tool to catch. Presumably on a piece
of calculus. Then to angle the tool back and forth.
Ultimately resulting in the tool slipping. With significant
occasional blobs. Pendulum method.
Estimation of results. Realistically I would count the blobs
in the dozens. Even after considering the two
furcations. Including a number of quasi mother lodes.
Finally leading to attempted sweeps where hardly anything was
gathered. In addition leading to particular angles that
resulted in those bio blobs. That I associate with
calculus. Either looking like a small loose piece of
flesh. Or a crushed feather. Oftentimes with a red
spot. That I interpret as an attach point. With the net
result being that I must've gotten close to a hundred bio blobs.
Estimation of time. With breaks. For a presumption of a
total input of time of at least six hours. Or certainly enough
to get me quite tired.. Certainly enough to count as a good
day.
SUMMARY - Idea is that I have searched out and destroyed a
large proportion of all the calculus that was left in my
mouth. To the point where each discovery of calculus is a
significant proportion of what is left. Where my current
activities largely only yield small latent portions of
calculus. To the point where it is getting close to fair to
say that my mouth is clean. Now... of course this cannot
last. Additionally there are certainly areas of burnished
calculus that I failed to dislodge. But realistically... my
effort is at least 100% improvement on where the hygienist left
me. Which was actually quite filthy. But which was
promised as a baseline for cleanliness. Hence my current
baseline of cleanliness is quite high. Perhaps several orders
of magnitude higher than where I was before. Providing a
reasonable basis for healing.
Additionally... providing a reasonable basis for an antibacterial
strategy. Logic is that if there is very little barrier
between the Clorox and the plaque then there is a reasonable
opportunity for the Clorox to obliterate the plaque.
Additionally to causing the plaque to become mobile and
washable. Even to the point of where the base of the plaque is
very low.
Mathematical progression. Concept of 2, 4, 8, 16, etc..
Where I might measure my previous base in millions. But where
my present based might be measured in thousands. Where
possibly quite realistically the amount of active plaque could be
reduced to say 5% of the previous level. Where blasts of
Clorox might even wipe out most of the plaque it is there.
Essentially turning over the ecology of the pockets towards a
non-plaque oriented environment.
Current plans. As described... I am finishing up a general
sweep of the calculus in the periodontal areas. Perhaps
include a light sweep of some of the other areas in my mouth.
Also including some touchups on the furcations. Perhaps also
including some irrigation with the syringe. Particularly in
the furcations. With questions about mixing products.
But generally thinking to keep the products separate. With
original idea to do a major rinse. An energetic rinse.
With a high Clorox solution. Like 25 to one.
Additionally to persist at this. So my entire mouth gets a
high level of disinfection.
Deadline today for surgical rest. Additionally... to complete
the process today. Within the next several hours. Since
it is now almost 2 days later. Where the ideal would have
likely been to have finished by yesterday. But where I
certainly cannot persist after today. But also where I need
some energy. So I have to eat. Throwing a small wrench
into all of this. Since I'm too tired to brush.
SUMMARY -- teeth marked as clean. In fact they are quite
clean. If Carla's result was supposedly clean then six to
eight hours later should result in significant improvement.
Especially with blobs in the dozens....
-- furcation tooth 2.
-- furcation tooth 3.
-- cavern back of tooth 3. Including so-called final large
blob. Or mystery blob.
-- cavern front of tooth 2.
-- cavern back of tooth 14. Large quantity.
-- cavern front outside of tooth 15. Large quantity.
-- burnished calculus front of tooth 16. Several significant
blobs. -- NOTE 2/6/07-- Turned into major site of infection.
Several tubfuls of blobs.
With the final result that I went over the teeth, recovering
significant blobs right up until the very end. Additionally I
ran the tool along the outside and inside edges of the teeth.
Resulting in significant amounts. Including several fuzzy
pieces of calculus right at the end. Which leads me somewhat
disconcerted. Since I wonder if there are additional fuzzy
pieces of calculus that I missed. But... if say hygienist got
a hundred pieces of calculus. Plus I got an additional hundred
pieces of calculus. Then if there are 10 pieces of calculus
left then 95% of the pieces of calculus have eliminated.
Additionally... if I presume that there are significant pieces
left... but... enough has been removed for a strong healing
response... then... a certain number of pieces of calculus can
reasonably get engulfed by the healing response. Especially if
they are getting subjected to the Clorox. Additionally... it
seems likely that there must be at least a few areas that are
virtually spotless. These areas should get a strong healing
response. Whereas areas with latent calculus will tend to have
a slower healing response. What this means is that in a month
or so there should be more general closure and integrity then there
is right now. Additionally... once the area has had a chance
to achieve a reasonable degree of surgical rest that can be
traumatized again.
= = =
Friday, January 5, 2007
Waiting for purchases to arrive....
DiMarco furcation curette. Plus Langer 17/18. Both with long
access and small blade. Thinned out. Realistic by
Monday.
Quetin furcation curette. UAE. Realistic by next Friday.
McCall 13/14s. Plus Gracy 13/14. For a total of five
different curettes. ARRIVED.
Instrument cassette case. Signature series. Five
instruments. Worth $70 new.
Dental instrument guide book
Two drink mixers.
Microscope. So I can see the plaque. Maybe even ID it.
EDTA. Plus the memory enhancer.
= = =
ESSAY ON TOOTH CLEANING - 01-05-07
Idea is to do a cleaning of the furcations. Additionally
cleaning the mesials. Plus a review of the buccals and
linguals. With ongoing presumption that eliminating areas of
calculus will lead to a diminishment of the disease. Hence...
the pocket on the distal side of tooth 15 will be less dirty next
time it is cleaned. Additionally... the plaque should tend to
cling to the calculus. So... those dozens upon dozens of
flecks that I see are actually remnant pieces of calculus.
Likely of all most microscopic size. With most of their bulk
created by the anti-immune response. That bulk being infected
blood. Well removed. As part of the ongoing process of
débridement.
Débridement theory. That dead material inside of a wound or
injury stops the healing response. That lack of healing
activity is largely caused by the dead material. That removal
of the dead material will greatly improve healing abilities.
Known as débridement. Existing as an ongoing process.
For some reason... once an area has been débrided to where it
appears clean... in fact it is only cleaner than it was. Part
of this is because the material that gets removed previously
functioned to cover up the area that is now exposed. Hence,
the débridement functions as a protector.
Progressive débridement. Additionally... the living tissue
right around the left over dead tissue was previously subject to a
much stronger toxic onslaught. Once relieved of this toxic
burden the tissue gets an opportunity to become more normal.
Though this principle would not seem to relate so well to
teeth. Since the gum tissue is opposite rather then
contiguous. But from a practical standpoint when you scrape
the teeth the gums bleed. Meanwhile the infections seem to
want to continue on the surface of the teeth. So... it might
be imagined that the conditions of the gum either support or
discourage plaque on the teeth.
Calculus focused plaque. But largely... it looks like colonies
of plaque largely center their activities around pieces of
calculus. Functioning as a beacon or center. Or
realistically as a colony of calculus. Could imagine it like a
willow tree in a gravity free environment. Resembling a mop
with mops. Originally occupying a 180° environment.
Expanded through elevation. With either an initial or remnant
calculus functioning similarly to a cave system. Impossible to
route. With furcation resembling a cave too. But on a
cosmically larger scale.
Progressive removal of calculus. Presumption of burnished or
shaved off calculus. Whose surface area is only slightly less
than the original. Meaning... then it will tend to support
almost just as much plaque bacteria as before. Treating
so-called floating tether plaque colonies as separate matter.
Subject to being fairly easily removed. Also encompassing
calculus. Imagining some type of harbor. Or interface
between actual calculus and wanted be calculus. Imagining this
transitory state to resemble crud. Or as a battle where the
plaque won. Then just petered out and got superseded for the
nutrients stream. Hence leading to the fossilization of the
plaque into calculus.
States of removal of infection. Realistically to consider how
things were going for the periodontal disease before the problem was
realized. Imagine a world of calculus and plaque living
underneath my gum line. With the total volume of débridement
roughly representing how much calculus, bacteria, dead and diseased
tissue there was. Which physically was a lot of
material. As represented by numerous mother loads. Where
dislodging material resembles an explosion. Where in fact most
of what is liberated was part of the colony. Though I can
imagine blood latching on to various pieces of crud. To make
the volume appear larger than the reality. Where an underlying
object might resemble a large piece of dust. Almost ready to
fly. But where blood might expand the size dozens of
times. So the object appears substantial.
Hence an early state of affairs regarding overall tissue is whether
there are still mother loads. Once mother loads are eliminated
then the next state seems to be the existence of large colonies of
calculus. With each presumed as a center of destructive
activity. With knowledge that they cannot all be eliminated at
once. Or even close. That one débridement leads to
another. That within a few weeks sites that were previously
cleaned start to get dirty again. With calculus presumed as a
center of focus for at the least a significant size of plaque.
With assumption that total elimination of first calculus then plaque
would theoretically create a very good healing space for the body to
have its best chance. Idea that right now the furcations are
filthy. That a thorough cleaning would make a significant
difference. That two components can be viewed as furcations
and tenacious calculus. With a reasonable shot to reach some
deep pieces. Imagining using the pendulum method. On a
catch. With the catch contact strengthened application of
short strokes. Where some will lead to catching flakes of
calculus. Or even ledges.
Where the after five mini has great reach. Where presumably
the elimination of some of these reservoirs of calculus would seem
to have the effect of making the healing response much more powerful
than the disease response. With these calculus remnants
functioning as disease carriers. Which they are. Though
a small amount of calculus can be successfully entombed.
Possibly after a good partial removal. The codeword is
biologically acceptable.
Regardless... with these pockets having a certain permanence.
Representing some of the worst of the destruction. For example
a particular pocket might be an area where previously there was
bone. Where now there is only open space. With the idea
that the area is now a chasm. How do you fill in a
chasm? In fact you do not. What you can do though is to
create a healthy environment surrounding the area with the most
destructive results. But... this area will tend to be
convoluted. Functioning as a reasonable place for calculus
plaque and bacteria to hide. Additionally, at least when it
starts, the area is under high assault.
TRAUMA RECOVERY PLAQUE CYCLE -- Recovering from trauma.
Progressive removal of calculus. Area is curetted.
Tissue gets traumatized. Takes two weeks to recover.
Meanwhile... only a portion of the calculus gets removed. What
is left quickly starts producing more plaque. But... in the
resting period the tissue does get some relief from the
infection. Giving at least a portion of the tissue an
opportunity to get shielded from the infection. Giving it an
opportunity to heal. Slowly resulting in a closing in.
Where the ratio of the healthy amount of tissue relative to the
diseased amount of tissue becomes more. So there is more
healthy tissue. So there is less diseased tissue. This
becomes a new standard of performance. So next time presumably
there will be additional healing. With general healing seeming
to get reasonably measured over approximately 2 weeks.
Additionally, where the cavernous area is slightly less than before.
Colony size theory. Resource determined. To a
certain degree the amount of infectious activity is resource
determined. Meaning that young resource laden bacteria
colonies might be just as active as colonies many times bigger than
them. For practical purposes... or by standard 80/20 rule
convention... can say that 20% of the colonies produce 80% of
the plaque. But... if most of this 20% is eliminated, then
performance will improve amongst the colonies that are left.
With the presumption that a good center of mass makes for a powerful
colony of plaque. But that these colonies will often times be
subject to visibility. Especially as I get the opportunity
soon. To invent my own furcation instrument. In the
meantime will see if the universal hoe has any current existence
Colony size theory. Infrastructure determined. Idea that
more calculus infrastructure will lead to higher total
activity. But by less than the volume. So... let us say
that a 80% reduction in the amount of calculus reduces the amount of
plaque by 20%. This would sound harsh. As a practical
matter it sounds reasonable too. Since presumably the amount
of calculus on my teeth has been greatly reduced. By 90% or
more. Could what is left be producing four times the volume it
did before? No... but it could probably produce double.
So... instead of just half of the plaque activity who is to
say? Could 90% of the calculus also mean 90% of the
plaque. If the situation is under general vigilance.? Or
the plaque colonies will grow to fill up the usable space.
Suggesting that the plaque will return to prior levels soon
enough. With or without the available calculus. With the
calculus largely functioning as a jumping off spot for colonies much
larger in scale than the calculus then previously. By perhaps
several times in magnitude. That will.
Purchasing an inexpensive microscope kit. For kids.
Hoping it will give me an eye view of the plaque bacteria. 750
times magnification. Turns out okay. All most double 400
times. Which is where you can see bacteria. Where 1000
times magnification is a limit for much more expensive
equipment. Where 400 times magnification is normal for student
purposes. Get idea it might be useful to see what some of
these items are.
With plaque and blood products apparently looking similar.
Imagining the plaque forming into structures. Or having some
other identifying quality. Additionally if I can differentiate
species.
= = =
Thursday January 11, 2007 -- 6 weeks later.
From the SRP in late November... Did another cleaning three weeks
later. Pre-Christmas. For several hours. Resulting
in significant filth. Prior to that I used the toothpick
approximately 10 days later. Resulting in significant plaque
in the three or four major areas. Then... getting significant
amounts of plaque on a daily basis. I estimate the total
amount of plaque as borderline massive. Much more than just a
small pinch every day. More like enough plaque to drip off the
end of the toothpick. Literally a full drop of plaque for each
separate area. Which I would judged to be approximately 10
times as much as a pimples worth of plaque. Which I imagine is
a more common amount now.
Received the American Eagle curettes the Thursday after
Christmas. After five minis. XP technology. Which
means ultrathin. Ultra sharp. So... these curettes
should last me most of my life. Being a top-of-the-line
curette. With amazing special abilities. Perhaps enough
to actually débride my teeth. Which is presented as an elusive
and impossible goal. That there will always be more
calculus. There will always be more plaque.
I did a cleaning session that evening. I was able to
reach the curette into spaces that I could not reach before. I
was able to liberate significant quantities of previously hidden
calculus, plaque and other debris.
Progressive débridement. Got the idea about the clean
sweep. That next time I clean the teeth there might be less
débridement. Which would mean that there was less nasty stuff
in the interim. With the idea of achieving eventual
hygiene. That cannot be achieved right away. That only
can be achieved by progressive débridement. That next time
around the plaque that is now developing will tend to stick to the
calculus that was left behind. So the next cleaning session
should remove some of that calculus. Ultimately leading to an
environment relatively free of calculus. With idea is to find,
capture and liberate any redoubts. Possibly now is a good time
to check things out with the Explorer.
= = =
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 -- 11:56 a.m.
Did some SRP on my teeth last night. Monday evening.
From roughly 10 p.m. until 1 a.m.. Including injecting saline
and iodine into my sinus. Which did not result in any apparent
mucus. Worked on the distals plus the mesials. With
significant dislodgment of debris. Including some of the areas
that were presumably still filthy...
-- tooth 14 mesial lingual. Prior daily generation of pasty
whitish plaque. Removed what seemed like a significant
blob. Which was presumably fueling the pocket.
-- tooth 14 distal lingual. Scraping near the apex.
Removed a significant calculus particle. Of half millimeter
dimension. Presumably functioning as a locus of infection.
-- tooth 4 distal. Prior bleeding on probing.
Identifying an infected area. Dislodged roughly 10 significant
calculus particles. Functioning as significant infection.
-- tooth 16 mesial lingual. Discovered significant calculus
ledge. Presumably burnished. Made reasonable progress
breaking it up. But... it is tenacious and not completed.
<><>. LATER NOTE -- Tooth 16 mesial lingualTurned out to
be major infected site. Several tubfuls of blobs dislodged.
-- wisdom teeth interdental. Both sides. Significant
latent calculus. Addressed. Area does not seem
critical. But obviously is a place where healing seems
possible.
Previously did a midnight madness session on Friday night.
Lasting from roughly 10 p.m. until 4:30 a.m.. Starting with
hygiene. Then focusing on the apexes of the endangered
teeth. 14 and 15. Definitely getting at least one
significant calculus particle piece from the apex of 15.
Hence... have removed significant calculus particles from the apex
of both 14 and 15. Additionally it seems reasonable that the
infection localized in both of those areas has been significantly
reduced. Obviously the furcation on the distals side of tooth
14 is a nearby danger. But I have done my best to try to clear
out this area. Also... it is certainly improved over several
weeks ago.
Generalized summary.... Professional SRP at the end of
November set the general stage. With most recent problems
there including the gum boil and the flopped gum between three and
four. Plus the utter filth on the mesials of teeth 2 and
3. My immediate follow-up session resulted in significant
dislodgment. Essentially turning the SRP into a reasonable
general sweep. But with obvious plaque continuation. In
large quantities. In the normal plaque factory areas.
Pre-Christmas cleaning with significant as a secondary sweep.
Post Christmas cleanings with the deep access curettes started the
most recent healing process. That was roughly a month
ago. With follow-up sessions releasing additional large
quantities of debris. So that I can reasonably say that a
state of general cleanliness started to take affect after roughly
when I worked over the furcations with De Marcos. Or roughly 3
weeks ago. So... could start the clock then.
Alternately... there were still tenacious areas on January 21.
With my most recent three sessions being 3 plus 5 plus 3
hours. Or 11 hours. Dislodging at least 20 or more
identifiable objects this last time. Plus another 20 a few
days ago. With realistic totals actually being more like 40
plus 40. Or a total of 80 pieces of debris. So...
reasonably I might start the clock now. Especially with
obvious blobs removed from areas of a persistent infection.
Additionally... with amount of daily plaque factory production
seeming to be less. Over around say the last week or
two. When obviously daily plaque means an active
infection. Where presumably no healing is taking place.
Where presumably any progress is not central. But only around
the perimeter. Now thinking that this daily plaque factory
production might have reached a point of significant
reduction. With possibilities that some of the active sources
have finally been removed. But regardless... if I got say 80
pieces of debris most recently... then clearly the plan is to go
back a few weeks.
If I get another 40 pieces of debris then whatever is active must be
coming closer to becoming spent. If not now then perhaps next
time around. If not next time around then perhaps the time
after that. With obvious issues about the furcations.
But with possibilities to get some starting cleanliness there.
Which I can supplement. With additional possibilities of
closing up around the periphery. So that the most damaged
areas are still open. But the entire field of the diseased
area is no longer such a waste land. With some previously
destroyed areas now becoming benign. Such is the gum boil
area. Plus others. Which hopefully can become forgotten.
= = =
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 -- 4:30 p.m.
Post SRP. Woke up at 10 a.m.. Post significant SRP
session with teeth. Adding up to close to 10 hours or more
since the previous Sunday 1/21/06. Resulting in a reasonable
assessment of reaching an objective of cleanliness and
hygiene. Assessed as... running cleaner. With early
January debris judged as... significant. With thinking that I
am moving into a cleanliness phase. Meaning that... my
periodontal tissue should start to get an opportunity to shine in
the healing light of cleanliness. Once a month has gone by...
then... my teeth will have experienced a month of cleanliness.
Giving them an opportunity to heal. With expected results
being that the periphery will start to move in towards the
center. Thereby isolating the more damaged areas. Rather
than having almost everything exist in a severely damaged state.
This to include interdental bony areas. Which currently seem
to resemble open scaffolding. Where my internal gum anatomy is
exposed and vulnerable. Where I imagine flesh starting to fill
in some of the missing areas. To the point where these areas
get coverage. So even if they are deep they are still
functionally healthy.
Benefits of dental hygiene. As described... if all goes well
tooth 14 and 15 will become saved by the end of February. In
addition the furcation should close up. In addition...
presuming the perioscopy... my overall dental hygiene will be quite
good. Hopefully also stabilizing the furcations. Thereby
setting the stage to actually make progress. Where even a
little bit of closure in a clean furcation gets me that much closer
to the time when I might become a candidate for regeneration
therapy. With an objective to try to get regeneration starting
in 2008. And... in the meantime... setting a goal of a
fundamentally clean mouth within the next two months. Where
there are no active undisturbed bacteria colonies.
= = =
Thursday, February 1, 2007 -- 5:45 p.m..
Did SRP yesterday evening. Original plan was to work the sides
of the teeth. With results that the previous gum boil area on
tooth 2 now seems largely viable. Additionally the abscess the
area on tooth 16 also seems viable. Realized that I have not
put much effort into approaching the diseased areas from the lingual
side. Where obviously I have tried. But apparently not
very hard. Which sounds strange. Considering how many
hours I have devoted. But leaves the question of
incompleteness. With summary that obviously I have been
lacking. Should attempt to cover lingual with more
dexterity. With issues of what I missed.
Tooth 14 mesial lingual. Area of interest. Which has been
producing plaque on a daily basis. Going in with the after
five mini I explored very deep recesses. Where tooth and bone
and gum combine in a strange topology. Resembling some type of
surreal landscape. With the results that I was able to recover
at least one major piece of debris. Plus additional minor
pieces of debris. Combining with prior recovery to suggest
significant progress in this particular area. Potentially
setting up a healing process. Where I imagine any small left
over areas getting plastered over and fossilized. Where a
significantly large piece might abscess.
Tooth 2 mesial lingual. Previously realize that I was not
suitably addressing these furcations from the lingual side.
Originally attempting to use the after five mini. But
realizing I was up against serious calculus. Thereby switching
to the Gracy 11/12. Approaching from lingual. Achieving
significant depth and penetration. With it quickly and clearly
becoming obvious that this area was completely filthy. Laid
over with calculus. Including ledges of calculus along the
interior gum line. Apparently making the gum line very sore
and tender. From such close proximity to the plaque and
calculus.
Did my best to try to catch an edge. Resulting in at least one
truly gigantic blob. Presumably calculus. It must've
been 3 mm. That I looked at under the magnifying glass.
Plus at least two or three other borderline gigantic blobs.
Plus at least several major blobs. Reasonably counting at
least five or six major pieces of calculus. Plus many more
minor pieces. With results that I could see in the tub.
Where presumably I could count 20 or more pieces of debris. Or
the of a significant débridement session. With the stuff
recovered obviously bad. Much better washed down the drain
then in my mouth.
Additionally... succinctly recall at least one occurrence where I
clearly caught an edge. Then... as I pulled on the calculus...
I both heard and felt a distinct snap. Then I saw the gigantic
blob. Thinking that this piece of calculus alone was a major
trophy. Representative of just how much amazing progress was
made in clearing out the filth from this furcation. Reminding
me of...
-- tooth 14 mesial lingual. Where the original secondary
October blob was a mother lode. Where I am still removing
remnants. With hopes of real resolution.
-- tooth 2 gum boil. Meatball surgery in October released
multiple mother lodes. Results seem to be a reasonable
resolution. Area now looks like it is healing.
-- tooth 15 distal buccal. Don't specifically recall mother
lodes. But there was definitely significant missing open
anatomy. Area now looks like it is healing.
-- wisdom teeth interdental. Both areas seem like they have
good healing potential.
Summary... removal of calculus along the edge of the gum line
furcation. But... because of time... and because I either
created or uncovered a fistula and had to stop... there is
undoubtably still a lot of calculus left. Which will
presumably be open to later removal. Then have to finish off
the rest of the calculus later. Once the fistula closes.
But... with an open fistula it seems like a bad idea to do any more
scaling. Additionally... since I saw the dentist I've done
three sessions. Over 10 hours of scaling. So my teeth
must be running cleaner. Additionally... there seems to be
real healing taking place. Over the past two months or
so. So quite realistically I can expect additional healing
over the next several months. Even if the results leave the
furcations open.
If some of the most vulnerable areas can get coverage than it seems
reasonable to be able to put the disease into remission.
Additionally... if my task becomes maintenance rather than initial
débridement... and if there are no more surprises... plus... if
there is closure, hence reducing the diseased area... then my area
of concern might reasonably shrink. To the point where I can
largely ignore the wisdom teeth. And possibly only have to
concern myself in tedious form with the furcations. Where the
rest of my concerns will largely be in the realm of normal.
Summary of dicey areas...
-- tooth 2/3 interdental. Fistula.
-- tooth 2 mesial furcation. Incurable. Serious.
But... reasonably can stabilize. Potential resolution within
several years.
-- tooth 3 distal buccal. Open topography. With good SRP
possibly open to healing, pocket reduction and closure.
-- tooth 3 mesial furcation. Incurable. Serious.
But... reasonably can stabilize. Potential resolution within
several years.
-- tooth 4 distal. Open topography. With good SRP
possibly open to healing, pocket reduction and closure.
-- tooth 13 distal. Open topography. With good SRP possibly
open to healing, pocket reduction and closure.
-- tooth 14 distal lingual. Root apex exposed. Tooth is
vulnerable to dying. Hope to save. Through perioscopy.
-- tooth 15 mesial lingual. Root apex exposed. Tooth is
vulnerable to dying. Hope to save. Through perioscopy.
-- tooth 14/15 interdental. Open typography. With good
SRP possibly open to healing, pocket reduction and closure.
Summary of areas apparently resolved....
-- tooth 2 gum boil plus abscess. Looks hygienic. Nearby
mesial open topography seems to be closing somewhat. Area
looks like it is healing.
-- tooth 3 abscess. Nearby distal open topography seems to be
closing somewhat. Area looks like it is healing.
-- tooth 16 abscess. Looks hygienic. Area looks like it
is healing.
Overall look... seems cleaner and more hygienic...
-- total amount of available debris per débridement looks like it is
diminishing. Compared to previous observation. Such as
when brush picking tooth 15 mesial. When I got something like
50 pieces of debris. Demonstrating area as obviously highly
filthy. Overall look seems to be cleaner.
= = =
Monday, February 5, 2007 -- 8:45 p.m..
Tooth 16 mesial lingual -- Tubfuls of multiple mother lodes.
Did SRP on tooth 16 mesial lingual last night. Starting at
roughly 11:30 p.m.. Finishing roughly 6:30 a.m.. Or
seven hours later. Originally working on mesial for two hours.
Largely using the Gracy 11/12. Quite surprised by both the
volume and size of debris. Originally emptying approximately 2
tub loads into the toilet. Both with at least 40 blobs.
Then emptying several additional tub loads into the garbage
can. With at least another 40 blobs. So up to a hundred
so far. Then forgetting about it. Just dripping from
mouth to tub. Looking like hundreds of blobs. For a
total of at least 200 to 300 blobs. Or a blob a minute.
Emptying out the tub this morning. There were so many blobs it
blocked the drain.
Precipitating event. As I was attempting to dislodge the
latent calculus that I was aware of I got some greater depth.
Thereby reaching a deeper layer of calculus. Imagining an
additional ring with at least 2 mm more depth. When I
attempted to break this ledge the result was super blobs.
Getting the process started. Continuing indefinitely.
For hours and hours and hours. With mission and becoming to
continue the process towards some type of resolution.
Discovering such a completely filthy area. With natural plan
then becoming to débride the area as thoroughly as reasonable.
Hence converting area from total filth towards relative
cleanliness. Though obviously the area will need to be cleaned
again. But this precipitating event can get it started on the
road towards becoming hygienic. Within a month or so.
Hence converting an area from one of destructiveness towards
healing.
Large size blobs -- logic defying volume. The blobs were so
big they would hang off the curette. Largely they were
composed of blood. Even the large blobs would reduce to fairly
small stringy tissue. Imagining the stringy tissue having some
type of filaments. Or where my gums would pump out blood as
some type of protective mechanism against the infection. As
example... a cubic centimeter would be composed of cubic 1000
mm³. But some of these blobs were easily three or more
millimeters in diameter. Or 30 cubic mm³ each. Which
would allow only 30 of these blobs for a cubic centimeter.
With the entire surface area of the affected area realistically not
much more than 5 mm square. Or 25 mm². So how could so
many blobs come out of such as small area?
Realistically there was a lot of blood being released on an ongoing
basis. Much of the is undoubtably due to the general
disruption and the high degree of infection. So... when a
piece of calculus got scraped off the tooth a lot of additional
blood would come with it. But appearing as if the blood was
part of some preconstruction. But... 100 large blobs would
encompass roughly 3000 mm³. This is approximately 14 mm
square. Which sounds conservative compared to the blood and
blobs. Realistically... the volume only consists of the actual
tissue. Which in the hundreds still adds up to significant
volume. Averaging say a cubic millimeter? 300 mm³ would
be approximately a 6 mm square. Which is still a lot.
Suggesting that a significant amount of the volume of my gum between
teeth 15 and 16 is now a deficit. Previously filled with
infected debris. Now somewhat débrided.
Damaged gum. Mesial lingual corner. The gum is quite
severely damaged. The apparent issue was that calculus ledges
were going past the corner. Onto the lingual side of the
wisdom tooth. Looks like I tore the gum. With some
lacerated type injury. Resulting in some missing
material. Hoping it can cement itself together reasonably well
enough to recover. With expectation that will probably take at
least a month. With hopes that it might start to look like it
is healing by Friday. But with some possibility that it is
much more severely damaged then I imagine. Which might result
in the deficit not filling itself out very well. Or slowly
healing in some type of awkward configuration. Meaning... that
I should try to place the tissue in the closest resemblance possible
some type of healing configuration. Using the toothpicks
etc.. With some question about whether I should stay
completely away. Not even attempting to go around the corner
of tooth 15 distal. No matter how tempted I might be.
Summary. Previously I was concerned about the latent calculus
in this area. But I had no idea at all how completely filthy
the area was. How completely infected it was. So...
another mother lode discovered and cleaned. On par with both
the gum boil and the abscess. Or the general cleaning of tooth
2 and 3. But with so much volume! This has to be the
largest infection of all so far. Hopefully will not find very
many more surprises. But each one discovered is one less than
there was before. So... have to be very thankful that I
discovered this nasty area. With the giveaway being the latent
calculus.
Plus the missing bone depth combined with an elevated gum.
Suggesting that what looked like gum is really just a balloon full
of infected debris.
= = =
Tuesday, February 6, 2007 -- 12:38 p.m..
Three-hour consolidation SRP. Most important progress was
following up on the SRP in the 15/16 interdental area.
Basically meaning that... the area previously got a gross
débridement. But until last night, not tooth 15 distal.
In particular... the removal of the tubfuls of debris clearly and
undoubtedly is causing a regression of the internal gum line.
Meaning that more of tooth 15 distal interdental is becoming
exposed.
Tooth 15 distal. Unfortunately could not really SRP 15 distal
lingual because of the cut gum area. Or chose not to. Or
just did a very light sweep? But might reasonably presume that
this area has at least been attended to reasonably well in the
past. If not gone over in detail most recently. Hence...
the area might be lagging somewhat. But I should not be
in any great rush to get to this area again. Until after the
gum heals. Which will roughly be around the end of February.
Approach from buccal. It sounds reasonable enough that I tried
to SRP as close as I could from the buccal side. With the most
important consideration being nonspecific débridement. As in
reducing the overall bacterial load in the area. Potentially
enabling the healing to take place in a closing in fashion.
Additionally... presuming that there might be specific residual
calculus... the likelihood is that there is not a lot of it.
Additionally... it seems reasonable that what is there can be
specifically addressed in several weeks. Additionally there
seems to be a reasonable likelihood that the area is already
reasonably clean. Say... a 50-50 likelihood. So
reasonably I might not be losing very much by staying away for now.
Furcations -- teeth 2 and 3. Recent SRP 1/31/07 was good
progress. In particular on the lingual side of tooth 2
furcation. Where significant filth was removed.
Reasonable to say that both furcation areas have been greatly
stabilized. By removal of a majority of the infection.
Setting up possibilities for additional débridement in several
weeks. Or... alternately... to set up the possibility for
perioscopy to function as the second débridement. Or fine
débridement. With obvious mission to not just maintain the
furcations. But hopefully to reverse some of the
process. 2 millimeters here or there would be a good
start. With 100% hygiene as the presumed path.
Fistula #2. Additionally... the so called crack of breaking
calculus presumably revealed the fistula. But... the removal
of much of that calculus hopefully has set up the start of a healing
response. Which hopefully will cause the fistula to
close. I am very lucky has not been leaking air after the
first day.
Cut gum. Starting the clock Monday at 6 a.m.. Presuming
that four complete days will result in some reasonable
progress. With basic hope that it will reach the point of no
return fairly soon. When healing becomes inevitable.
Hopefully. This seems to be the most likely result.
But... it looks like there might be a gap. Which is presumably
filled in now with lacerated tissue. So... hoping that the
lacerated tissue has the potential to remodel itself back into
viable tissue. Realistically this seems likely. With a
normal first aid response to lacerated tissue being to push the
tissue back into place as best you can. Then to presume that
the tissue will revitalize itself. Which it typically
does. Largely. But even where it does not do so
completely, generally what happens is there's a deficit. We
are healing takes place around it. But not in the deficit
itself.
So... can presume that within four days or so that a significant
amount of healing will take place. Enough so that the area
becomes better. Certainly not worse. But more so where
the area defines itself in to inevitable healing. Obviously...
what I hope does not happen is for the area to define itself with a
split. Or cleavage. Where there is a deficit in my gum
line. Which seems possible most certainly. But not very
likely. Think the tissue will come back together reasonably
well enough. Hopefully. So that in a week or so it can
largely be forgotten. Otherwise the cut gum sounds like it
could become a major problem. Or alternately it might sit in
an unhealed state. That is not so bad really. Except for
taking a long time to finally get better.
Update -- Looking like the area will heal with a definite
cleavage. Only question how much. Hoping what is
reasonably close together right now will continue to stay close
together. But realistically it looks like there is a
significant gap. Enough to deserve stitches. Meaning
that the deficit will most likely fill in with scar. Not
normal gum tissue. Which will then presumably remodel
itself. Thereby turning the initial healing into at least two
week venture. But hopefully getting past the most tenuous part
within several days. So far being roughly 40 hours.
Approaching two days. Two days from now is Thursday
evening. By then should have a better idea.
But realistically the results should be at least halfway
satisfying. Probably no worse than either of the two flopped
gums. Mentally I can imagine backing up the healing
time. For example I can see the healing process starting right
now. Rather than at the time of injury. Similarly two
days from now I can look at the healing process starting then.
In this fashion realistically things should probably be halfway
presentable by Thursday. At least by then it will not be a
fresh injury.
Summary. With mother lodes removed and area followed up on...
plus with a general sweep... with specific attention paid to
furcations... right now is a reasonable transition state between
filth and hygiene. Quite likely I will identify additional
filthy areas in two weeks or so. But most certainly these
filthy areas are more isolated than previously. Per 4/5
rule. Where I can reasonably say that my teeth are 80% cleaner
than they were. With only 1 out of every 5 previously filthy
areas remaining. Hence... two weeks from now the areas of
filth will be much more isolated than they were prior to my last SRP
effort.
= = =
Tuesday, February 6, 2007 -- 8 p.m.
Dental Injury list -- fistula. Last week I got the fistula on
tooth 2. Fortunately it largely feels like it has closed
up. Realistically it is still there though. But possibly
in latent form. Meaning that it will close up. Once it
gets the opportunity. Which will presumably arrive after
additional débridement.
Dental Injury list -- torn gum. Now I am nursing a torn gum on
tooth 16. With likelihood of cleavage and permanent
damage. Just hoping that it closes up enough that it is not
annoying. Hoping that the area that looks like it is sealing
together does in fact seal together. Otherwise I am
screwed. Alternately the area might seal up with a scab
between it. Which would royally suck. But hopefully...
at worst... there will be some kind of cross tissue
connection. Enough to draw the two sides closer together.
Reasonably I might see some progress by Thursday. Which will
be three full days. Hopefully reaching the point of no
return. If there is a left over notch I can forget about
it. As long as the gum does not turn into some type of
long-term split that resists healing. Main object is to avoid
allowing the gum turned into a chronic injury.
SRP last night. Previous night was major extravaganza.
Complete with tubfuls upon tubfuls of bloody debris. All from
16 mesial. Most amazing. But obviously quite good to
deal with that particular area. A periodontal cancer in my
midst. Eating up my most valuable bone. Ready to cause
additional nasty surprises. Now transformed into a potential
area of healing. Hopefully moving forward into a hygienic
phase. Possibly functioning as a closure on the filthy
phase. With an additional three hours of SRP last night.
Including significant filth liberated from 15 distal.
Resulting in... a basically hygienic mouth... for the present
time. Waiting for recovery from the SRP. Which will take
about a week. Or even two weeks. Additionally waiting
for the torn gum to heal. Additionally waiting for the camera.
Seeing the doctor on Friday. Conceivably I will get additional
camera guided SRP hygiene approximately a week later. Or
approximately 10 days to two weeks or so after my SRP.
= = =
Friday, February 9, 2007 -- post visit to periodontist.. Left at 10
a.m.. Got back home at roughly 3 p.m.. Five hours later.
Dr. V. Periodontist took x-rays. Said that I had
significant additional bone loss. Unfortunately he has the
x-rays. So I can't analyze what he is referring to.
But... looking at the x-rays it definitely looked like there was
less bone between the first two molars.
How much less bone? What is my recollection? It seems
that in early May I still had gum between 14/15. Then...
before seeing the periodontist in August recall seeing gum.
Then... when I saw him in October it looked like there was a lot
less gum. That the gum had retracted.
As he phrased it... every time I did any SRP... It was
SURGERY. Averaging at roughly 20 hours per month... trauma was
caused. In particular it looks like trauma was caused to the
gums. Which cover the bone. Recall being able to detect
the gum between 14/15. Which looks to have largely
disappeared. In addition to the scalers the inter-proxy
brushes can also traumatized the gums.
Explanation -- Too much activity traumatized the gum. Lack of
gum traumatized the bone. Bone regresses.
Alternate explanation -- The periodontal disease was so severe that
it was going to naturally destroy additional bone. Use it
up. of a bone burn rate. Akin to water damage.
Where idea is to stop the process as it is taking place. Where
certainly judiciousness and carefulness are important. Where a
professional can remove a maximum amount of plaque and calculus with
the minimum amount of trauma. Where I am just the
opposite. Taking a long time to remove the calculus
incompletely. Resulting in trauma. While leaving enough
calculus behind to cause future problems.
As he phrased it... unless I stop using the scalers... which he
called surgical instruments... then I will lose the teeth.
What needs to be done now? He said that the areas need to
heal. Which more or less sounds like I need to leave them
alone for at least a month. It also sounds like I might want
to rely more on rinsing than on the water pick type irrigation.
Summary seems to be that the gums are traumatized. Causing the
bone to shrink. Periodontist said basically to stay
away. Now being February 9. If it takes three months for
the plaque to grow back.... Then basically get a free
month. To March 9. Thinking being that... if I removed
is much calculus and plaque as I think I did then there is certainly
less there.
Note... Dr V did not seem to know about the DiMarco curettes.
Additionally he did not seem too concerned about getting the
furcations clean. Nor did he seem very concerned about the
nerves.
Bottom line seems to be that the gums are traumatized. Also
that adequate gum seems to be very important.
My basic problem seems to be that I could not SRP the gums
reasonably well enough in a limited time frame. Or activity
frame. Especially without scraping. My basic assumption
being that if it didn't hurt than I was not traumatizing the gums.
Other thought... particularly on tooth 16 mesial... would be if I
was breaking away gum tissue from the cementum. Answer would
seem to be no. That I was removing an active infection.
Additionally...
Tooth 14 mesial was definitely filthy. Would it be better off
if it was still filthy?
Tooth 16 mesial sounds like was definitely filthy. Would it be
better off still filthy?
Tooth 2 definitely had a gum boil. Should I have waited so I
could beg a periodontist to clean it?
Dr. V prediction. That I should get rid of the curettes.
That if I kept using the curettes then that would ruin the
teeth. Alternate explanation is that there was something
severe going on. That I was losing bone at a high rate of
speed anyway. The gum trauma that I caused was certainly a
negative factor. But... it sort of looked like some gum bone
was growing back!! Where might that be? To
Additional thoughts on Dr. V. Definitely do not trust
him. Ready to blame the bone loss on me. And not on the
disease. Where presumably the disease might cause a modest
amount of additional bone loss. But not much. 1/10 mm
per year Additionally he said I don't have any fistulas.
When I do! Additionally... when I offered tooth 3 distal
buccal as a possible communications site he checked there.
Then he checked between teeth 3 and 4!!! Like it would be
there. Like where are fistulas normally? But he did not
check the lingual side of the inter-proximal area. Like I
suggested. Very strange. Why look in the wrong site??
Then... when I said the fistula was there he doubted me. Only
when I demonstrated its exact position did he seem to agree that it
was there. Then with what? A shrug?
He said I do not have fistulas. That I just had deep
pockets. He did not even check 13/14 before making that
call. Not until I pointed it out. When I said... how
could he expect the fistula to heal if it wasn't cleaned out?
Where his prior answer was that it was clean. How does he know
it is clean? How does he know it is not completely filthy?
Additionally... it sounds like he tried to scare me by asking me if
any of the previous periodontists recommended pulling the
teeth. Sounds like... he might be indifferent whether I keep
the teeth or not.
Bottom line though was that he said that perioscopy would not be
beneficial. Which seems to defy common sense.
Fistulas. Two teeth ready to blow. He did not check
their depth. Seemed indifferent. Can see that he might
say the teeth should heal first. Then perioscopy. But to
blow it off? Sounds like a scam. Additionally
furcations.
Perioscopy... two teeth ready to blow... two fistulas... multiple
furcations. Looks like three areas for perioscopy. And
Bottom line seems to be that I need a periodontist who is on the
same wavelength as me. Who is forgiving. His
receptionist questioned about me walking past the building.
Like... hello? I might sound paranoid... but... it sounds like
these folks might have a natural affinity towards replacing teeth.
But... there was definitely less bone. It looked like
significantly less. What it sort of seems like is that I might
have even pulled out a piece of vulnerable bone.
Should have... sat there and waited for them to make copies of the
x-rays.
Realistically... it sounds like the gums are definitely
traumatized. That they have been ongoingly traumatized for a
period of time. So they could use some rest. That the
overall situation should improve over the course of approximately a
month. That the benefits of waiting well outweigh any benefits
of intervention. That the downsides of intervention are
high. Given that the tissue is traumatized.
Of curiosity is how long it took the trash the gum on 29 to
recover. Trashed on Wednesday September 6. Nine days
later looking gray. 16 days later looking gruesome. 21
days later passing inspection. Unnoticed by
periodontist. Now... October, November, December, January,
February. Gum now gaining elevation. Five months
later. Appearing like it might even fully recover.
Within a year or so.
Bottom line seems to be to largely STAY AWAY. Recovery process
seems to take about a month. In the meantime it seems like I
can do what I can to try to minimize the growth of bacteria.
Like irrigation. I can rinse my mouth with antibacterials.
Additionally I can take a certain comfort in the fact that
much of the teeth are relatively clean. So... it is a
reasonable that they will not significantly degrade over the course
of the next month. While in the meantime they will definitely
heal from trauma. Especially in the interdental area of
13/14. Where it looks like I should stay away.
CURRENT STRATEGY...
-- recognize that what has happened has happened. There is no
undoing it. You have to live with it mistakes and all.
-- stay away. For a month. Give everything time to
heal. Reasonably... I am in post-SRP mode. Reasonably...
current SRP mode is a reasonable approximation of what I would get
from a professional. So... a month will do it good.
-- recognize disturbing aspects of additional bone loss.
Including it being my fault. But... also recognize that some
of it is likely ongoing. Some of it might be from the proxy
brushes. Additionally... you don't have a good idea about
exactly how much bone loss you caused.
-- realize that I probably could've gotten an $800 SRP early
on. Conceivably this would have stop the disease in its
tracks. Additionally I might have avoided more bone
loss. Though realistically the furcations on teeth 2 and 3
were already there.
-- find out how much additional bone is missing. From the
x-ray it looks like there was mushy bone at an angle in between 14
and 15. Now gone. Presumably this could have functioned
as a platform for getting additional vertical depth.
Meaning... just how much additional damage did I cause?
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-- note that the common opinion is that bone does not grow
back. But studies suggest that a person might get 2 mm or so.
-- my strategy of trying to get progressive hygiene to 100% fell on
deaf ears. Both first two periodontists thinking this
ridiculous. Third periodontist apparently also thinking this
ridiculous. ... No point to clean up the furcations. ...
No point to clean up the areas around the fistulas. ... No
point to clean up the area around the nerves.
-- but realistically... taking a long-term strategy... what seems to
make sense right now is to let everything heal for at least a
month. So... differences in philosophy are not much of an
issue right now. Especially since I got my way. I got my
100% hygiene. With an additional 47 hours of SRP since seeing
Dr. G. Presumably costing me bone. But getting rid of a
lot of crud too.
-- current strategy would seem to be to discourage bacteria and try
to encourage the gums to heal. So in a month or so things will
be quite so traumatized. From roughly 20 hours over the past
month. Plus 9 hours on the mesial 16. Where
realistically a hygienist might spend eight hours. Also
resulting in trauma. With the three a four-week cycle of
recovery.
-- additionally it looks like my teeth are not producing so much
plaque anymore. The apparent cause is that most of the
calculus has been removed. Even at the price of traumatizing
the gums. Even at the price of causing additional bone
loss. Which might make them amenable to general antibacterial
strategies.
-- some of that missing bone might reappear. Obviously not
much. But maybe some. Find out how much bone you
trashed. How much crying you need to do.
GENERAL HOPE...
-- does not look like there is much possibility for recovery between
14/15. Would need to get some serious vertical. Hard to
even imagine it becoming stabilized. But... if it could
stabilize then maybe I could get 2 or 3 mm of bone back. Or
might be amenable to possibilities within a few years.
Stabilization is the goal.
-- does not look like there is much possibility for the furcations
to close up either. But again stabilization is the goal.
And
= = =
Monday, February 12, 2007
List of Dental Problems --
.... Teeth 14 and 15 nerve involvement. Race against
time.
.... Additional bone loss. Presumably caused by
me. Indeterminate degree. Presumed serious damage.
Especially on interdental 14/15.
.... Lack of x-rays. Have no way to document, verify or
calculate the damage. To assess my actual blame. Won't
know for several weeks. When I can see the x-rays.
.... Trashed gums. Per mesial 16. Presuming the
calculus and blobs were part of a serious disease process.
Amazingly Dr. C's hygienist just left the calculus there. So I
paid $450 for an SRP and was left with a major colony of
bacteria. Just sitting there. Showing that my mouth was
completely infiltrated with the disease. When normally I
should've had some resistance. But instead I got a runaway
train. Caused by stress? Or do I have some other disease
lurking?
Additionally... the trashed gum is now approximately a week
old. Reasonably... within approximately another week it should
start to normalize. Additionally it looks like I finished my
general SRP around January 31. Where furcation 2 was
filthy. Which was obviously a progression. But where I
also addressed mesial 14. In particular... relating to the
nerve. Where I had other nasty calculus on January 29.
Roughly 2 weeks ago. So... presuming an initial healing
process of approximately 2 weeks. And a general healing
process of approximately 4 weeks. Then... I will be moving
into a so-called normalized phase by roughly early March. In
the meantime my gums will be suffering from trauma.
Also... is the general idea that the entire process of healing from
periodontal disease can be very slow. Where the disease comes
back. Re-infecting the gum tissue. Causing a
dilemma. The reinfection slows down the healing process.
But trying to remove the infection will result in additional
trauma. With the infection causing loss of gum tissue.
But with the trauma also causing loss of gum tissue.
.... Furcations on 2 and 3. Calculus suggests them
pre-existing. Making them inevitable. But if I caused
them... obviously that is bad. But realistically... they were
there before. The calculus was likely there for at least
several months. If not years. Whatever got my disease
progressed to the point where my mouth got to be so filthy.
For example... in a week the trashed gum should start to
normalize. Additionally the gum should start to normalize
too. At some point reasonably soon I will be ready to see the
dentist. Get my teeth cleaned. Get my x-rays. Find
out what happened to the bone. But in the meantime there is
nothing I can do about the bone. Additionally... largely my
teeth seemed to be clean.
For example... So... there seems to be a reasonable chance my tooth
nerves will hold out.... In the meantime it is a calculated
risk. Where I have also been stymied by the dental
professionals. Who are not taking me seriously. Who I
suspect of foul play. Leading the teeth die... in favor of
implants. Now becoming quite convinced that dentistry is
largely a dishonest profession. Not at all honorable.
Sellout the patient. Collect the money. Society is worse
off. The patient is worse off. But the dentist is better
off. Except for their souls. Realistically... think the
teeth are a reasonably clean enough that the nerves will be able to
hold out. Especially since I have spent a good 13 hours after
seeing Dr. S most recently. With at least two of those hours
devoted towards cleaning out the interdental 14/15.
For example... there is nothing I can reasonably do about many of
the tooth issues. But... within several weeks a good amount of
healing should start to take place. In addition... per Judith
Carroll... I can move into the applicable space that I can create
for myself. Meaning that I can get my teeth fixed by getting
my work situation in order. By doing the transcripts. By
doing the exercise. By sleeping well. By eating
well. Etc.. Hence one goal largely gets accomplished by
creating space. By taking care of other goals. So time,
effort and patience can be devoted towards the applicable category
at the proper time. Because other matters are... completed and
finished.
= = =
Thursday February 15, 2007 -- General Issues -- BONE LOSS.
As stated... have to figure out just how much bone got lost.
With obvious analysis...
-- objective is hygiene -- Ideal is to get the teeth as clean as
possible... While causing as little trauma as possible.
-- cost-benefit of trauma -- Causing a lot of trauma while not
getting teeth significantly cleaner is a low or negative
COST/BENEFIT.
-- some inevitable bone loss -- Some of the bone loss in 14/15 looks
inevitable. For some reason the infection there was highly
severe. Possibly also including bone infection.
-- breaking away bone? Seem to recall feeling bone in there
that then "went away." Conceivably I broke some of it off and
it flushed away with the debris. Or I got confused about where
I was and tramautized it.
-- contents of big gruesome blobs? -- recall at various times
big blobs. Quite large. Quite gruesome looking.
Possibly in July? Which would have been pre perio guy.
Specifically recall a piece of debris that looked like a Christmas
tree. Resembling a crushed feather. As described.
Perhaps 2 mm long. Maybe three? But maybe this was bone?
-- bone blocking the way? Breaking away? -- also recall
going in there with the sickle. Also the explorer.
Feeling what seemed like interdental bone. Blocking the
way? With likely explanation that it was interdental
bone. Which I then broke off. With the differences
between tooth and bone and calculus becoming obscured.
Essentially getting too far gone. Where I can't reasonably
differentiate between good and bad. Additionally where it
becomes very difficult to remove the debris without damaging vital
tissue.
-- case of disappearing gum -- pre-brush pics. Also seem to
recall seeing what looked like gum between 14/15. Prior to
seeing the perio-guy. Then seeing what looked like a
black-gruesome mess a month or so later. Post cleaning out the
area with the brush picks. Spinning the pick to snag
material. Obviously causing it additional trauma.
-- confusion over causes. -- Basic paradox seems to be
that I caused a lot more trauma to 14/15 prior to seeing the
perio-guy than afterwards.
-- the brush picks did it! -- Looking like spinning the brush
picks traumatize the gums. Thereby exposing the bone.
Bone then retreated. Causing lost bone.
-- ongoing gum trauma. -- Reasonable explanation seems
to be that the gum was getting traumatized on an ongoing basis,
without enough time to heal in between. Additionally it was
under similtaneous infectious attack. So it got a combo of
Infection/Previous Trauma/Ongoing Trauma.
--RESULTS -- Would seem to be that there was not enough gum covering
the bone to keep it stable. Minimal Gums => bone shrinkage.
-- seems that furcations must preexisted. Per Furcations on 2
& 3... Would seem they were there before. Unlikely they
could have gotten started by me and gotten so large in such a short
time. Plus the evidence for them seems to be on the x-rays...
SUMMARY --- Have to wait for several weeks for my gums to heal
enough to get cleaned. Like early March.
-- Have to wait to see X-ray results. Similar to some type of
testing where you have to wait for the results.
-- Should try to minimize any trauma in the meantime.
-- Once my gums have a chance to regenerate then I will have a more
healthy basis to proceed.
= = =
Sunday, February 18, 2007 -- 11:19 a.m.
Per... Thursday, February 15... cleaning the furcations on 2 and 3
seemed to be the last item on my list.
Mesial 16. The calculus on tooth 16 mesial was already known
about. Removing it was part of the plan to remove residual
tenacious calculus. Which I worked on over the course of
January. Finally finishing it off on February 5.
Furcations 2 and 3. Addressing the furcations on 2 and 3
intermittently. Finally getting to major issue of tooth 2 from
the lingual side. On January 31. First round. With
expectations for a second-round. That I would either do or not
do. But regardless... having to wait. Like for two
weeks. Which I did. Then finally doing it.
Removing significant amounts of debris from the inside. Then
significant amounts from the opening. Then approaching from
the other side. Becoming aware of the location of the
fistula. Which is right in the middle of tooth. Between
the roots. Quite scary. Then becoming aware of the
exposed apex on the buccal mesial side.
Hollowing out bone? Then also becoming quite amazed and afraid
about what seemed like a huge amount of hollow space in the root
area. Thinking reasonably that some of that would've obviously
been calculus. But how much reasonably. Also wondering
if I could realistically hollow out bone. Even though I am
trying to do my best to always start off on tooth.
Additionally that the calculus presumably can attach itself to bone
too. Thereby causing a dilemma. Also realizing that
there don't seem to be any reasonable answers that I read about
scaling bone. It almost seems like a nonexistent topic.
But... the periodontal disease would seem to create a natural
connection there. Unless the coexistence of the tooth in the
bone is because of some type of sloppy meatball surgery.
Slicing things up. Removing pseudo healthy tissue.
Thereby creating the interaction. By the process of destroying
structure and soft tissue.
SRP hours. With 34 total SRP hours since Christmas. So
realistically... for a total of roughly 8 teeth... have to say I
covered matters. With a fairly high degree of intensity.
There is no other reasonable way to view it. Additionally... I
obviously trashed the gums. So the only realistic approach at
this time is to stop and rest. In a month or so the gums
should recover. Perhaps six weeks.
Irrigation infection control. In the meantime I can try to
control the infection with irrigation and floss. Largely
trying to avoid the brush. Which should be more reasonable
than before. Since realistically there should not be a lot of
residual calculus left. Plus... where there is residual
calculus... those particular areas should be reasonably
isolated. Meaning that perhaps 75% or more of the affected
areas are reasonably free of calculus and should get a chance to
heal. If the healing process gets an opportunity to take place
then the affected diseased areas will tend to reduce
themselves. Even if this involves trapping residual
calculus. With the expectation that there is a resorption
process taking place. Which might ultimately dissolve away the
calculus. And
= = =
Friday, February 23, 2007 -- continued.
Teeth. Last night I cleaned out significant amount of bloody
plaque. From 16 mesial. Additionally from 2
mesial. I did my previous irrigation, with iodine, just about
a week ago. While cleaning the furcations on teeth 2 and
3. Suggesting a more frequent irrigation schedule.
Thinking that I do need a 48 hour layover. This seems to be a
general physical principle. Additionally... this is a form of
insurance. To prevent any likelihood of iodine
poisoning. Since 48 hours will give my liver twice as much
time to process the poison as 24 hours. Meanwhile... 24 hours
doesn't seem like a likely timeframe for the bacteria to get
started. Right now thinking... 72 hours. Enough time for
the bacteria to not get started too much. Enough time for my
gum tissues to rest. Enough time to offer a respite.
So... every three days seems to make sense for irrigation. Or
rather for using the brush pics. With alternating of
irrigation fluids. Iodine. Fluoride. The
prescription stuff. Etc.
= = =
Wednesday, March 7, 2007 -- 10:30 a.m..
3-D x-rays. Went to see Dr. L on on Monday. To get 3-D
x-rays. Bit of a contest.... I said I wanted both 2-D
and 3-D. With the 2-D for a normal representation.
Plus the 3-D for more detail. For consultative purposes.
He originally suggested he could send to me a representative sample
of x-rays via e-mail. I said I wanted all the x-rays on a
disk. 500 slices. Using the Romexis software. Per
advice from tech. On a DVD. Or the CD might be
better. Doctor said that they are not familiar with this
procedure. Said I would pay extra. Said I really want
that.
Doctor also suggested that they just give me 2-D x-rays. If
all the periodontal hygienist needed was those. But I said
that I wanted comprehensive results. Additionally that I
wanted a baseline. Doctor agreed. Finally. 2-D
plus 3-D on Romexis. With viewer. So all I have to do is
copy the CD. Or alternately I can add to the CD. So
apparently I get what I want. Instead of getting gambited into
getting what I do not want. Since I might've walked out with
just a regular set of 2-D x-rays. Or representative 3-D
x-rays. When I want the full thing.
Additionally... the doctor did not agree with the iodine.
Asking me if a periodontist said it was okay. Skeptical about
the book Web.
Issue of bone loss. Reminded of an old cartoon. We won the
mug. But we lost the old machine. Where I have removed
significant amounts of calculus. Presumably I could not scrape
out bone. It would hurt. But I certainly could
traumatize gums. Which would then either regress. Or
leave the bone exposed. Which would then retreat.
Alternately thinking that some of what might have appeared as bone
was really calculus. Saying... where's the periodontal
membrane. In this scenario the bone was gone. Replaced
by calculus. With this scenario resembling Alien. Or
Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Where some serious disease
process took hold. With hidden dimensions. That I
diligently uncovered. That there certainly was substantial
bone loss. But some was inevitable. Some was really
calculus. Some was caused by me.
Realistically though... I traumatized the gums. That caused
the bone to regress. I lost significant bone. Measurable
in millimeters. Likely unrecoverable. Likely a one-way
process. Where a proper SRP right away... for $800... what
have removed the basic problem a year ago. Leaving me with
much more bone then I have.
Though this scenario is not without problems. Presumably the
furcations were there. Realistically the $800 SRP would have
set me up for a second $800 SRP. Where the second one would
have gotten things reasonable.
= = =
Saturday, March 10, 2007 -- 1:30 p.m. -- IDEAS
Introducing disinfectant. One idea is to get the brush pick in
the chlorhexidine. Or in straight iodine.
= = =
Friday, April 13, 2007 -- 2:51 p.m. -- post tooth cleaning.
hygienist SRP. West Lawrence Avenue. Post two month gum
recovery phase.
Basic closure for now -- post prophylaxis. Per generalized
theory. That clean means cleaner. That rudimentary clean
was achieved 1 to 2 months ago. Followed up by two month gum
healing phase. Leading to secondary cleanup. Or
follow-up cleanup. Or generalized sweep. With recovered
gums. Starting a new phase.
Starting a new phase. With gums basically recovered.
With teeth basically clean. Leading to the start of... a
healing phase. But... I am still in a phase largely
characterized as... Acutely Wounded.... So obviously there are
many more interim phases still left. Such as healing from
healing. Which can be otherwise termed as remodeling.
Hopefully bordering on regeneration. But realistically that
phase has not started yet. It can only start once the acutely
wounded stage has somewhat completed its transition. Which
only can be viewed as having taken place once two months have gone
by in a state of post general healing and cleanliness.
Starting the next phase in roughly June or July. By which time
I should have recovered from most recent trauma. With what is
left getting its chance to regroup and become more present.
For the next stroke of the knife.
Culminating event. I continued to do home SRP up until Tuesday
3/20/07. On DL 3. With capture of 10 flecks/blobs.
With prior BOP from Tuesday 3/6/07. Or roughly 5 weeks
prior. Viewing this area as the last major stronghold of
recalcitrant calculus redoubts.
Prior last major SRP battle. Basic view is that M-16 was
completely filthy. As was obvious. With home SRP on
Sunday 2/4/07. Viewing this as the last major battle.
Reviewing the time since then as Post War. Viewing February
and March largely as recovery periods. With major SRP
operations the last week of January. Largely seeming to
function as general sweeps. For latent isolated areas of
calculus. With only a few obvious strongholds. But where
afterwords I could reasonably assess my teeth as basically
clean. But... with traumatized gums.
Gum healing phase. Idea is for gums to get a chance to return
to a reasonable semblance of normal. Mostly in a non-diseased
environment. Essentially returning to a state of reasonable
health. With ongoing possibilities for regeneration. In
an environment that is basically healthy. Obviously starting
with the gum tissue itself. Covering wounded areas that are
acutely open and exposed. Leading to more subtle
regeneration. Hopefully including ligament and bone. In
a phased operation. Reasonably started post ...
= = =
= = =
DIARY - 2012
sa-09-22-12 - Tooth #3 - upper-right second-molar lingual - Issue is
the area is about to abscess. Gums are separated from the tooth.
Plus it hurts.
w-10-11-12 - Tooth #5-6 gap - Deep pocket. Breaking in between the
gums and up into the maxillary jawbone. Most likely problem is
centered on furcation on top of bicuspid. Gum covering is pulled
away from the tooth. Resulting in Ski-Jump Issues. Where it is easy
to get confused about where the tooth ends and the bone begins. BUT
the bone needs to be debrided too. Just a different type of
debridement. Shouldn't scrape it too hard. Also be careful that
things that appear to maybe be calculus aren't really calculus but
are really gum tissue. Need to focus on staying on the tooth.
WHERE IS ABSCESS - Presumed location is on the front-inside - mesial
lingual - of the molar and its corresponding portion on the
bicuspid.
PLAN - OUT-FLANKING STRATEGY - So plan is to come in from a distance
from both directions. First from the back to front. Then crossing
the tooth to the bicuspid. Which is technically easier. Than from
the from. Which is technically very very difficult and treacherous.
So want the least amount there as possible.
CAUSE - The area was never properly debrided. So now the chickens
are home and roosting. Previously it was like a vault. Couldn't get
the curette to fit in there. Isolating the calculus. For many years.
Now the calculus is pushing its cause inward. Into my upper pallate.
SOLUTION - OUT-FLANKING STRATEGY - Going to come in from the back to
the front. Simple mission. Going to use straight curettes. Whatever
will work. No harm to use variety. Then after awhile the area will
start to release. Once it starts to become traumatized it will
completely release and will literally be able to clean the teeth
down to the bone.
SIDE ISSUE - DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BONE AND CALCULUS - This has always
been a concern. Ripping out bone. Think what happens is the gum
tissue ends up residing directly over the calculus. That is why it
is fuzzy. In essence the calculus mimics the functions of the bone
and the gum tissue then just covers it up. That is why the gums
retreat after debridement.
THE BONE THAT WASN'T THERE - Again working this concept. How can you
tell? My strategy has always been to come in from the sides. Even
though I know full-well that what I am dealing with is calculus.
Then the blood and the lack of pain prove it is crud and not bone.
Also if can get under it then it has to be calculus. Bone does not
live in the middle of the air. It has to have a base. Otherwise it
is dead bone. What about Zombie Bone? Please! Forget about Zombie
Bone. It's a myth!! It doesn't exist!! OK? And even if it did exist
the tooth is in trouble and will just have to forget about any
magical transformations involving zombie bone and just cut back to
healthy tissue. And anything that is dead has to go.
WHAT DO I EXPECT TO HAPPEN - I will start to come in from the back
and nothing will happen for around 20 minutes or so. Then will
gradually start to get more and more crud. Then more and more. Then
eventually the entire area will open up and will eventually reach
the absdess. Then all hell will break loose.
= = =
SUMMARY - EXTENSIVE INTERCONNECTING ABSCESS RUNNING FROM FIRST MOLAR
TO SECOND INCISOR - Also including previous infection and ongoing
trouble-spot on second molar, which is now largely appears to be in
remission for now. Tooth #4 was previously extracted for braces. So,
Tooth #3 Molar, Tooth #5 Bicuspid, Tooth #6 Eye-Tooth & Tooth #7
Incisor are all in big trouble. Four teeth.
GENERAL STRATEGY FOR ABSCESSES & SERIOUS STINKY STINKY
INFECTIONS
1 - FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED - Only cause as much destruction as
necessary in a limited field of action. Avoid mission creep. Focus
on due-diligence. But also be opportunistic too. Especially when the
Gums-Open-Up and Things-Get-Bloody. Don't try to be all things to
all teeth or even to different parts of the same tooth. Better to
focus on a highly limited mission and let time do your bidding..
2 - STRATEGIZE AROUND HEALING CYCLES - For large areas separate the
fields of action into separate attacks spaced between healing cycles
of roughly a week. That way a resulting four-major-attack attack can
be squeezed into a reasonably narrow time period of say two months.
In addition if the problem is abscesses and access you may not be
able to get to the abscess right away without clearing the
Clearing-the-Forest to gain access to the Gates-of-the-Abscess.
3 - WORK FROM PERIPHERY TO CENTER - THIS IS THE KEY KEY CONCEPT TO
FOLLOW - LIVE IT BREATHE IT DO IT - THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM IS TO
HARD TO DEAL WITH DIRECTLY - BUT KILL ITS GUARDS AND IT BECOMES
HELPLESS TO STOP THE FINAL ATTACK - IN FACT IT MIGHT EVEN GIVE
ITSELF UP VOLUNTARILY.
4 - ALWAYS WORK FROM THE EDGE OF A KNOWN PART OF A TOOTH - IDEALLY
FROM A SMOOTH PART OF A KNOWN PART OF A TOOTH - Nothing can be more
important than this. I cannot tell you how many times I have been
scraping bone and come across something lodged in the gums and
thought - EUREKA THIS IS IT !! - WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! - DUDE THAT IS
BONE YOU ARE ABOUT TO RIP OUT - GET IT? BONE!
5 - ANY ISLANDS ON TOP OF TOOTH SURROUNDED BY GLASSY TOOTH SURFACE
PLUS EXHIBITING A CLEAR EDGE AND FASTENING ONTO KNOWN TOOTH ARE BAD
- (So you have live bone growing on top of your tooth? - ( NO
- you do not have living or otherwise viable bone growing right on
top of your tooth. Sorry it's just not possible)
So this likely piece of calculus or former cementum has the
potential to get a second life? NO TYPICALLY THEY FEEL FURRY -
ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THEY ARE ISLANDS AND THAT THEY CANNOT POSSIBLY
BE BONE NOR GUM YOU ARE ENTITLED TO DEVISE A STRATEGY TO RIP THEM
OUT. HOW? NOT DIRECTLY - SMOOTH THE TOOTH ALL AROUND THE CHOSEN AREA
- ENCIRCLE IT - THEN LIFT UP ITS EDGE LIKE YOU ARE PEELING A LABEL
OFF OF A CAN. IF YOU ARE SLOW AND METHODICAL YOU CAN RIP IT OFF IN
PIECES - NEVER NEVER IN LAYERS -- BAD BAD -- ALWAYS TRY TO REMOVE
CALCULUS & DETRITUS IN PIECES. THE LARGER THE BETTER
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